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Frage von Morgenstern:


hello in the round!

Slashcam diligently read, and gegoogelt but unfortunately not the right answer. so here is my request. I hope you can help me ...

I want to buy me a camcorder and have already decided for me that with a disk should be. miniDV is me with the archiving on DVD too costly, a DVD camcorder to a lot of stress with the piecemeal and the compatibility with the DVD player.

I have the following presentation:
clips (family, children, holidays, etc.) every two weeks of the disk on the pc pull, if necessary, edit (transitions, mark, cut), collect on the pc, with 4GB burn to DVD and archive them.

now I just do not know what brand sony and jvc and if one of the two, then what? GZ-MG 50/77/37 /? DCR-SR30/70E/90E /?

30GB should be there, optical zoom is not too large (no tripod) ... I've already viewed the whole range, but as a newcomer to the area because it rises not through.

synonymous, I would spend up to ¬ 650th

you get what clever or anything but I must again rethink? never thought that this is difficult ...

for your help already in advance a big thanks!

'm curious ...
gruß winnie

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Antwort von darkcobalt:

Quote: miniDV is me with the archiving on DVD too costly

where is the burdensome? If you have a PC with DVD Burner, you can have for example with Nero on-the-fly recording to DVD.
This means simply record with Nero button. Nero will start the car and closes the Camera DVD s.wenn the tape is rum.

Nero is just one example, there are loads of programs (almost all the burning programs) to do it.

Also you have here is still the better way of nachbeitung (why? Please refer to the countless threads here why tape is better than the DVD.

So the archive is not an argument.

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Antwort von darkcobalt:

yes, this is already clear to me that the archiving is no problem. I thought synonymous rather the transfer from the camcorder to the pc.
I have two little kids and therefore only very limited time for any transmission of data on the pc. I will also not have other additional equipment purchase.

because there is no resolution in the disk area? I gladly renounce synonymous to top quality. images are so bad and loud sound quality test reports so not synonymous.

For more help, I would be grateful! as I said, I've already worked through all the threats ...

who can make me smarter?

Thank you
morgenstern

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Antwort von Jan:

JVC and Sony Have grade new models presented at the CES in Las Vegas - what more can currently only be guessed at.

Sonyist HDD definitely the better company if you want the heir to the throne JVCs MG 505 aside - to a similar high level.

What do you do?

At "only" shooting desire SR 30 is a perfectly adequate if you have more functions and facilities such as:

Surround Sound
usable photos
Microphone connector
advanced 16 / 9 mode
larger sensors (1 / 3 "SR 90 to 1 / 6" SR 30 - for the better sleep photo)
the better lens (SR 90 - Vario Sonnar)
RGB Filters - (SR 90) for better color rendition
better accessories like the bigger Battery FP 60

etc need to be better-equipped models.

For all the nice gadgets you have to remember on the HDD is the Camera for the targeted models with 720x576 pixels written-ie the video image quality is limited only by the better components improved but not redefined.

Only when you can SonySR HDD camcorder is not in the camera cut, a simple cut is supplied with the program.

Very popular with art hater is Easy DVD Burning function, with the included software can be divided into the existing film about the push of a button directly burn to DVD (blank disc in the drive of Sonyinstalliert & SW)

For me, this is one of the few advantages of JVC, their supplied software is a little better equipped.

End of February is the next big show - the PMA in Orlando, then Canon Linup determined their present, I would not be surprised if the synonymous with the HDD technology to train up.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von kleines:

hello jan,

best thanks for the reply!
meanwhile I was already on it and turn on miniDV to change ... of the equipment, the camera will already be good, I will, however, no frills required, the times when I may say so succinctly ;-)

surround sound = nee
= nee photos have a DSC
microphone port = nee
larger sensors would not be bad = SR90 sounds good
... and on a larger battery could be synonymous, I think ...

you can because the end result synonymous tubes on a normal TV look? or is the image quality of the MPEG compression as bad as it sounds?

what the cut programs, there may be something quite simple. I have a little bit with the Windows Movie Maker (yes, now please do not laugh!) played. ranging from completely. more time to go into the details to go, eh, I have not.

I look at me then look at the sony to ...

'm open for more tips!

thank you in advance!

gruß
Morgenstern

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Antwort von kleines:

puh, but the SR90 is expensive!

as is because the SR30?

cost is technically for me, unfortunately, at ¬ 650 - maybe ¬ 700 final!

or is there an alternative of jvc?

+ grateful gruß
M.

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Antwort von mw73:

Can I use the files simply because of the Cam-HDD to PC HDD and then copy directly zb in Media Studio 8.0 edit and then burn to DVD, or what needs to be converted?

Me, the SR90 would be synonymous or SR1E interested. Already had a Sony (PC100E) and the image quality was compared with all previously Cams with similar features of Canon and JVC superior.

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Antwort von Jan:

"Jan" wrote:

End of February is the next big show - the PMA in Orlando, then Canon Linup determined their present, I would not be surprised if the synonymous with the HDD technology to train up.


Canon is already in the next week to introduce new models.

Also here is a new DVD models with more than 5 million pixels (WERS needs?) The DVD will get the new models Processor DiG! C II

The Mini DV models hot no longer MV - is really funny?
Wahnsinnig much will not change.

It looks highly synonymous HDD camcorders from Canon from home ....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Parafuso83:

The question remains for me: what do I buy now?

Which HDD camcorder up to ¬ 700 you can recommend me?
have no desire nor weeks with searches for connections! wants to film my kids!

again, the facts:
do no good at: photo feature, surround sound, many extras
Pay attention to: good picture, good weitwinkel, good lowlight quality and easy handling!

All in all, good middle class!

Retail hilfe wäre echt super! Thank you!

gruß M.

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Antwort von Jan:

SonyDCR SR 30 with good accessories (Bag & 2nd Battery, POL + UV filter + gray) or SR 70 just ¬ 700 with a better hard drive and some features already mentioned.

Image quality of both in roughly the same because the sensor of the SR 70 synonymous size is not much - the much larger sensor and better lens to get first with the SR 90th

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Parafuso83:

supi!

very dear thanks for the help!
it may be that the more you sony fan-art? of jvc is so little here in the forum was held ...

well, I'm smarter thanks slash forum and look at me now dinger in real time.

+ grateful gruß
M.

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Antwort von Markus:

"M." wrote: it may be that the more you sony fan-art?
Certainly not, Jan is Panasonic fan. However, the SonyPD170 with him an exception. ;-)

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Antwort von BillBo:

If I remember times as a rookie may be displayed here ....

I go to the topic of hard drive and transfer the data ...

Must necessarily go through a PC, or can the data directly synonymous to an extremely hard drive to play on?

Background of the matter is that you can not always mitschleppt his laptop, but it is fairly cheap to buy separate hard there.

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Antwort von Jan:

Sonyist simply the best company in consumer hard drive cameras.

The touch screen of me and the many peculiarities (external battery, separate Male & Connections) for Sony Not so I've fallen quite often stressed.

In the Semi Pro class DV Sonysolche "Spirenzchen" not - for luck! Well, the HDR FX 7 Should still reluctant third of the L series batteries, but otherwise there are no problems.

Direct to hard drive?

Since I had a short test times, which Sony has been of the external hard drive that I could not select folder, I guess because gabs a lock of Sony - Model SR was 90th

That was the plus point of JVC, my external hard drive recognized the JVC MG 505, I gave you a whole folder or disk on the MG 505.

One only needs to note the hard drive must be capable OTG, must be a USB host / hub (no idea how that is) have integrated, non-synonymous to the other hardware device to detect and control them.

Since, however, synonymous of Panasonic cameras (H 20 / H 250) are announced, and may be synonymous of Canon models appear (or get a Canon Griener in this issue), the Consumer HDD hunting in March / April, none can be opened and the output now predict.

In the latest video was Sony, despite its peculiarities to the unanimous winner chosen HDD, SR 30 had price / Leistungstip narrow despite equipment. I got it before the test synonymous similar view, except JVC MG 505 is just not quite as strong as the Sony.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von BillBo:

hello jan,

one hears again and again of sony that they regard as sound quality is not dolle would - draw a lot of noise next to the camera. is that really so dramatic?

will in the next few days time at a dealer and look me a SR 30 can perform. then it is decided ...

s.alle ever many thanks for the tips!
The forum is really great - I can only recommend!
at least I know where I can look at problems ;-))

+ grateful beste grüße
M.

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Antwort von Jan:

Actually do not, there are no head drum (MiniDV) & the DVD drive, this produces annoying hum. I've still not heard, Sony Pseudo 5.1 sound (SR 70 & 90) is even a certain spatial effect. The opposite is the case everywhere you hear the HDD models generate little noise. Yes there may
a Zoomgeräusch, but so far there was more of a Canon problem, Sonyhat well under control.

Disk models is only a vulnerability in the Write & read said, that is exactly the moment the hard drive is very vulnerable to shocks. The company but protect it with a sensor of the reading & writing at the moment or in the setting time is in the internal memory (buffer) is written and not on the hard drive.

VG
Jan

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