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4:3-DV-Spuren als Collage -> HD? Welches Format?

4:3 - DV-tracks as a collage -> HD? Which format?



Frage von Nuzzer:
Januar 2008

Good evening and just praise s.die operator of the Forum for the non-existing obligation to register!

I would like from DV material in 4:3 a (music-) video in HD make. That it at 4:3 -> HD possible with beams, it is clear to me. But since I dubbed around 8 tracks I thought I could so synonymous a kind of "collage" try: Multiple tracks in "windows", then on the whole HD Resolutionverteilt are.

Unfortunately is the (moving the clip on the "surface") with the software (Vegas) fairly difficult, probably because something is not provided. If a Vegas-Kenner sits, I would be very grateful for tips ... It must be possible.

Also, that I am in the HD format, the jungle again and again lost. In c't of what stood as "1080/24p = 1920 * 1080 24fps -> 16:9." Here I read under slashcam.de/artikel/Editorials/Hochaufloesend-in-die-Zukunft-- HDV. Html # T1 of what 1080/60i, 1080/50i.

-> What size is it now makes sense individually? Then I knew, at least sometimes, what project settings I should definitively ...

Thanks for any advice!



Antwort von Markus:

"Nuzzer" wrote:
Which format is it now makes sense individually?

I would prefer a HD format that the same frame rate as your original material. Then here schonmal the (lossy) conversion away. If you're in SD / PAL rotated, you would offer, for example, 1080/50i, 25p or 50p to. 24p is more for movies, but not for the Television. The computer is the frame rate on the other hand, totally no preference, but he prefers (), just like the movies, progressive format (ie, those with a "p" after the frame rate).

BTW: When it comes to "post production in general" or about the handling of Vegas in particular? If the latter is true, I would have the discussion in the Vegas section move.



Antwort von nuzzer:

Thank you!

Only to once again clear to see:

1080/25p (I am and has always been progressive fan) would be ...

1920x1080 with 25 fps?
Aspect ratio would be?

I have a test export to something like (a preset in Vegas), and the result played my calculator (Dual 2.6GHz, 4GB RAM) from only smoothly. Because I thought, this is probably too much of a good thing? What codec is recommended, or which are HD before?

The shift would be useful, yes! Had the Vegas forum probably overlooked, sorry. :)








Antwort von Markus:

"nuzzer" wrote:
1080/25p (I am and has always been progressive fan) would be ...
1920x1080 with 25 fps?
Aspect ratio would be?

In the case of 1920 × 1080 pixels would be the exact pixel aspect ratio of 1.000 because 1920:1080 exactly corresponds to the ratio 16:9. Since it requires no correction factor anymore.

If you tend s.den HDV targets guided want to come synonymous 1440 × 1080 pixels with a pixel aspect ratio of (1920: 1440 =) 1.333 in question.

"nuzzer" wrote:
... the result of playing my calculator (Dual 2.6GHz, 4GB RAM) from only smoothly.

Possible that your computer was too much. Here, the codec used a decisive influence and uncompressed is not so required.

Which codec for your concern is optimal depends primarily of your concern from. Apart from the desire to SD videos into HD Project discouraged, you have not yet written. ;-)

"nuzzer" wrote:
The shift would be useful, yes! Had the Vegas forum probably overlooked, sorry. :)

Done.



Antwort von Nuzzer:

Ok, in order to minimize confusion for me, I probably take the format with the pixel aspect ratio of 1

What codec is concerned, I think times, it is s.besten, first to any loss-free, because of lower quality versions so later you can still do?

Since it is a music clip is of course much Gehampel in the photographs, and if I manage to collage, then even in just several small windows. In addition, I will surely still synonymous Effects use and possibly a giant video zoomed to run in the background .. Other

Say so: Lots of Action should be given away. :)

Among the collage again: The main problem is first of all, even a 16:9-base for moving the 4:3 clips to create. I had a rudimentary success by getting an almost empty track in the appropriate aspect ratio "before" all other tracks of the last century, but when you move the 4:3 clips funny things happened. The wider I made, the smaller they were, right = left, etc. .. Somehow I seemed something not right to understand ...

Thank you jedenfallsnochmal!



Antwort von Markus:

"Nuzzer" wrote:
What codec is concerned, I think times, it is s.besten, first to any loss-free, because of lower quality versions so later you can still do?

That's true. For high-resolution projects, I have mostly worked with HuffYUV. The video files are not sooo great and the compression is lossless.

What Vegas, because you need someone else to help you.



Antwort von Marco:

"Unfortunately, the design (moving the clip on the" surface ") with the software (Vegas) fairly difficult, probably because something is not provided."

But is provided and - know how - synonymous actually quite simple. Abuse for the sizes and peripheral adaptations of the individual videos tool Pan / Crop.

Marco



Antwort von Nuzzer:

Sure, Pan / Crop - actually, I know the tool synonymous for years, but something I have never done so.

If I were simply the project properties to an HD format stelle, can I change the 4:3-clips that still does not slide sideways s.den edge. The then disappear, as if there were an invisible 4:3-window within the large, and only where allowed, the 4:3-Clips "stop". That said I with "probably not foreseen."

Therefore (so) with the idea of 'pseudo track', on the other, but HD has dimensions (by a single event outside of short video clips of the actual). Then you can clip the 4:3-edge s.den slide. But this is all so laterally, as described above ...

Something that is probably true since no ...

Thank you!



Antwort von Marco:

If you are in relation to Pan / Crop think, because nothing happens laterally or twisted, but behind it simply a different philosophy.

If you have the Pan / Crop window, you provide the work area where the rectangle is a canvas on which your picture will be projected. So if you verkleinerst of this rectangle, then you choose so that a smaller part of the picture from, but in the full project resolution, or render resolution is presented. The screen itself is always in the Vegas Project or render size. If you vergrößerst the canvas, the picture that only a small area of the whole. Shifts of the canvas are equivalent.

If this concept (which for such tools is not unusual) see through, is synonymous handling the logical and intuitive.

Marco



Antwort von Nuzzer:

Thanks until here, I will try again later!




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