Frage von LorPGDL:
After extensive comparisons of the data of the various HD camcorder, I have concluded that the Canon HF100 is currently the best <1000 ¬ camcorder, if one does not on SD or MMC card accepted.
I compared the data and tests of Panasonic HDC-SD9, SonyHDR-CX6EK, Samsung HMX-10C and Canon HF 100th
Unfortunately, the Canon is currently not available.
Interesting synonymous nor could the Samsung HMX-20C, because the cmos chip 1 / 1, 8 inches high, but only in May
Am I right in assuming that the bigger the chip is more effective pixel mehhr available?
Should we better SD or SDHC cards?
Thank you for your help.
PS: This review of the HF10, the identical with the HF 100 only with a built-in hard disk, has convinced me:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/ Canon HF10 First Impressions Camcorder Review-34262.htm
Antwort von WoWu:
Am I right in assuming that the bigger the chip is more effective pixel mehhr available? That might not be available.
Although the chip size has slowly interesting.
A larger chip can be synonymous mean that the pixels are larger, which in turn has made some very positive effects. A reasonable pixel-pitch starts at 3 microns. The ideal combination is of course of both parameters, a good pixel pitch and the format of a custom resolution. It is only on the chip size.
In addition, it is 3-chip technology to be, because otherwise the Resolutiondurch the Farbmaske again reduced to 30-40%.
Because if you have a camera chip with 2 million pixels in a single chip camera has left after just a good resolution on SD.
Antwort von LorPGDL:
means that the bildsensorart ccd cmos is better than because usually 3 CCD chips for red / green / blue are blocked, as in the pana SD9, and usually only 1 cmos chip as the hf 100, or because I am something together?
CCD effective pixels 16:9? 2070000 pixels 520000 (x3) pixels
Then you should but Eighth or? because the canon but with 2 million more than the panamit 3 CCDs.
Antwort von WoWu:
In relation to the Resolutionist is no preference as to whether CCD or CMOS.
At the 1-chip solution, however, is always a Farbmaske needed to each color to win. It will then, depending on the mask (Bayer / clear-Vid / HSP) s.Pixels different amounts for the same pixel is used.
The effective image resolution is thus reduced by approximately 30-40% depending on the mask.
Moreover, the fact that image sensors ever built in 4:3 (few exceptions). The heist that I only ever been around. 75% anyway and can use this fact synonymous my Resolutioneingeschränkt is horizontal. But I do record in 16:9, reduced proportionally vertical synonymous my use of the chips. I put the mask now to stay afterwards for the Resolutionmickrige 27% left.
So we land very quickly in the same regions with the 500,000 he was the 3-chip cameras, which is synonymous to 4:3 until the correction has to real resolution values to come.
But even 3x 2 million are still no 1920 Resolutionzu. 3x500.000 you are just once a SD ... but 1x2 Mill are synonymous not much more .... it looks only more.
Antwort von LorPGDL:
So then you can get hd cameras under 1000 euro anyway bend when in reality only gets sd resolution: (
hald then I take my cellphone with vga resolution;)
Antwort von WoWu:
Well, yes, with the SD was of course somewhat exaggerated, you get 720 instead of already between 900 and 1100 pixel resolution ... but the rest is just interpolated and far away of the 1920th
At the honest man is today still operates with 1280 .... because the parameters still agree. But this "madness" for higher resolutions will only operate with mediocrity.
Antwort von LorPGDL:
in any event, thank you for your advice, so you seem to understand what of them, have the isbn gegoogelt:)
will still try as the performance of the cam because it looks, because I know so far only videos of my old jvc camcorders and maybe it works so much better that I'm satisfied trtozdem: D
Antwort von chrissigorn123:
By testing and comparing prices can not be the "best" determined.
Time, quite apart from that everyone must decide for itself, I can with the statement "HF100" does not agree. The HF100 with the HF10 is almost identical - and which delivers a worse picture than the SonySR12 - which in turn exists only on opinions.
All current Sonyand of Canon camcorder (and synonymous Panasonic / JVC) deliver good results.
Much more important than the constant Drumherumreden is what you make out!
We can continue here as root beating the old philosophers, who argue about what the country would lead to s.Besten.
Instead, we should grab these things and with them the rausholen from us what lies within us!
Antwort von WoWu:
@ LorPGDL
You will be sure to do better shots, no question, because of course, is synonymous s.Bildprocessing been worked.
@ chrissigorn123
Sure, I give you right good pictures, you can make with each camera. But you widersprichst you, Page, on the one you say, "totally ule, it depends on what lies within us", but in the same breath you say that HD10/100 deliver a worse build than they SR12 .... Is this after your thesis is not entirely no preference?
Antwort von Chrissigorn123:
Well, since I was a little misleading and exaggerated words :)... then I say dear times: the (all apparently) very good subject of the HF10 (all apparently) is also very good in almost SR12 richness of detail and image noise in a somewhat weaker-lit scenes, which some of the affirmative individual testers and testers of the other individual is in the negative. Overall, most of the individual testers SR12 a slight lead over the HF10 disclosure. :)
However, synonymous other features have a role to play in the camera purchase, we will decide for itself alone, for one of the two cameras, both good images.
I personally would SR12 because of the fine HF10 Dial-Wheel prefer and send the housing prefer, I'm sooo not because of the pea or more pixel block counters in 300% iger magnification. :)
... quite apart from it is from today's perspective, getting the HV30, because I experience a lot of cut and not much money for a high-end PC: D
Antwort von LorPGDL:
clearly, I would order s.liebsten 5 camcorder and a personal all testing carried out, but since my account is not with:-D
I think the sony just looking at the data is not as thrilling, effective pixel number, resolution and weight are still significantly higher than the 100th hf
I have unfortunately not synonymous fast pc, but would like a small lightweight camcorder and have in the sd card prices, I think makes me nothing more synonymous with those of order.
what happened to me but it is still unclear, the write speed of most sd or SDHC cards will be at 10-15mbps estimates. if I but now wants to record the highest quality are the 17mbps. then does it anyway?
Antwort von LorPGDL:
hab hier ein video of a recording of the canon HV 10 found. " looks really good.
http://techvideoblog.com/category/camcorders/page/2/
