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Frage von doclike:
März 2011

Hi,

I just got a DV cam here and editing the video for DVD.
Can I say jmd as field sequence in DV and in a PAL DVD?

Upper or lower field first?

I also want the file synonymous for the PC make it accessible, so I want to work progressively.
How can I convert the interlaced video to progressive? with Virtual Dub?

mfg doc



Antwort von Belize:

Lower Field First.



Antwort von nicecam:

The response of Belize is not much help next.

DV is bottom (lower) field first. DVD (MPEG) is Top (Upper) field first.

Question 2: With VirtualDub, I do not know right now.

What did you do for an NLE? Popular video editing programs allow easy but the output to progressive, for example, the Windows Media Player.





Antwort von Belize:

For the DVD is: Both UFF, LFF as synonymous as synonymous progressively possible.



Antwort von nicecam:

VideoDVD a compliant DVD requires top field first. On a HybridDVD can both compliant video material are that recognizes the DVD player auto. can also be on the DVD are progressive material, with the, the (external) DVD player to start anything, the PC will then preferably this.

I'm pretty sure there. Or we talk past each other?



Antwort von dienstag_01:

There is no specification for the field preference for video DVD is not it. Anything goes, Upper, Lower, progressive.



Antwort von doclike:

hm so many answers and all a bit different. What I've found so far by google: DVDs can be interlaced and progressive synonymous contain material.
I currently have a trial version of Edius Neo 3 and takes for DV Lower Field.
SD PAL material (non-DV) makes it with Upper Field first.

Well. The theory behind it I now understand and know that with no1080i Camera comes into the house. I want nurnoch 50p!

How to set the in Edius, I do not know. when I render mpeg, then I can indeed set progressive, but the video is still interlaced gespeicherchte.

Currently I play around with VirtualDub and the deinterlacing filters. With Bob, ELA and yadif I get the best result. This SmartDeinterlace does not really work.

A DVD with progressive material is therefore not easy to play?

Greeting doc



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
A DVD with progressive material is therefore not easy to play?

But



Antwort von nicecam:

"Doclike" wrote:
What I've found so far by google: DVDs can be interlaced and progressive synonymous contain material.

That is really synonymous.

And therefore:
"Nicecam" wrote:
HybridDVD ... ...

But I disagree dienstag_01 Belize and again.

A video DVD (Pass) requires AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folder. At least the last one. In it there are IFO, BUP and VOB files. The latter are MPEG. And that requires top field first.

What do tommyb, WoWu and others to?



Antwort von nicecam:

"Dienstag_01" wrote:
Quote:
A DVD with progressive material is therefore not easy to play?

But

Yes, but where? On the PC, and not s.externen DVD Player.

With a simple "Yes" you can not do anything.



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
A video DVD (Pass) requires AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folder. At least the last one. In it there are IFO, BUP and VOB files. The latter are MPEG. And that requires top field first.


Where is it said that MPEG TFF required. This is simply not true.
Would mean that all of next PAL MiniDV footage of BFF will be converted to TFF. Does it really not (enough simple test).

And of course I can play progressive material with an external DVD player s.TV.



Antwort von Belize:

A DVD with video content with property LFF, UFF or progressive is both on the PC, are listed as synonymous easily on any hardware player. You are wrong with the opinion that the video of a PAL DVD would have the property of UFF. There are as per DVD specification for noEinschränkung. The field order a video DVD is identical and there are no compatibility problems in this regard synonymous with the players.
It may therefore be useful to adapt s.die the field property of a video-DVD needs of the preceding processing chain. If, for example, worked with PAL DV, synonymous may have on the DVD, the video property LFF without any drawbacks would thus bought.



Antwort von nicecam:

I'm not agree with. First, limiting I say now, at least older external DVD Players require UFF. I the will.

But in the wrong way - comes within the meaning of the video-conformity that is incorrect field order it but the infamous crab. Are still a lot of relevant threads on this.

So if the "no matter situation" nurmehr external DVD player to relate to new generation?



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
So if the "no matter situation" nurmehr external DVD player to relate to new generation?


No, that concerns the specification, which is the standard of VideoDVD.

I suspect simply: You create DVD's from originally HDV material. In the case could "change" really lead to errors.



Antwort von doclike:

well here is clear indeed an interesting discussion:

I have here material of 2 camcorders: a Panasonic hard drive recorder, the MPEG2 - PAL standard record with max. 9.5 Mbit / s Upper field first, according to Edius.

The other material is of a Sony DV Cam and with Edius in Lower Field First captured.

As I follow the discussion here, there are noVariante that all is fair (DVD playback on TV and PC playback).

Preferably with a progressive course, would have been drawing since I want to have the best quality - synonymous with users who do not know what deinterlacing mode to play with VLC you have to choose s.PC.

Oh yes: Is there a difference between a DVD and TV s.Flachbild s.Röhren TV?



Antwort von dienstag_01:

@ Doclike

So completely I can not understand your conclusions.

Of course, you can create a DVD with progressive material (yes you write in your posts next above himself).
If Edius (I have never worked so) you spend on export with progressive frames still interlaced material, it can be because you have to deinterlace your sequence in the program prior to export. Or, you're wrong, the video output is progressive, but just very simply based on the two composite fields. It will look like s.Computer from interlaced material.
Complicated?
If the Edius indication of how the field order of material is imported, then just import your video output back again, then you see it.



Antwort von Hans-Joachim:

"Doclike" wrote:

Preferably with a progressive course, would have been drawing since I want to have the best quality


Only - progressive is not always better than interlaced. It depends of so from the number of images.
If you have a DV-AVI-Cam, that is with PAL 25 fps. aufnimmst, you're with 25 frames is not necessarily better off than with 50 fields.

The question of which field order for the DVD release the best one depends almost exclusively on the used film. And if the action of 'lower field first' comes, I would absolutely recommend that use synonymous on the DVD in the same order, otherwise it may become worse in the case come to the picture imperfections.

That can only handle MPEG2 upper field, I have never read and this situation is not synonymous practice. Then, the authoring tools should only handle so uff. So in my view falch statement.




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