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Flycam, Shoulder Mount, Steadycam - Was ist am besten für mich?

Flycam, Shoulder Mount, Steadycam - What is s.besten for me?



Frage von Mr. B:
Juli 2009

Now I have already scoured the Internet and half synonymous here in the forum have asked some questions, now is about to make a decision.

Requirement:
I would like to stabilize my Nikon D90 (; Lens with a little over 1 Kg), so I can shoot not only statically with Tripod. In the stabilization system should be flexible enough so that I possibly synonymous come close to the ground.
Important: If at all possible, I should be able to use the focus ring, I think that would be at a Flycam just as possible, since I only need a hand.

price:
Since the D90 is actually a camera, I would not spend too much for the video mode. I would say a maximum of 120 euros. This unfortunately limits me very much, almost all Indian products come into question.

In the immediate choice, I have these products:
- U-Flycam
- Camera Shoulder Support, the ingredients are used individually synonymous

- The Hague Mini eliminated well as max. loadable up to 0.8 Kg
- A Glidecam as the user repeatedly applies pilskopf eliminated because of the price as well.


What is there else? What would s.besten for me?
It would be nice if I could order another today in Zermatt next to photos to make beautiful synonymous with video recordings :-)
Thank schonmal.



Antwort von Axel:

"Mr. B" wrote:
Important: If at all possible, I should be able to use the focus ring, I think that would be at a Flycam just as possible, since I only need a hand.


Nit works, because the printed according to the principle of an extremely sensitive scale functioning suspended particles: "Do not touch this!" A rotary s.Lens order to focus the purest means Emmerich earthquake ...

"Mr. B" wrote:
price:
Since the D90 is actually a camera, I would not spend too much for the video mode. I would say a maximum of 120 euros. This unfortunately limits me very much, almost all Indian products come into question.


But how about with 0 euros? I propose (a shoulder pad, in the trial as a board with tripod screw respectively. Cullmann or Manfrotto quick release) (before, with a handle for the right hand, so you can to focus with the left, this is the case that you're right handed) . Two things to consider: a counterweight behind the shoulder makes it easier to balance. The handle should be adjustable in angle, as an overextension of the wrist is No. 1 cause of fatigue, and worse. These are the two weaknesses in the Indian part of you so that you can otherwise take an example, if you find there really nice.

A prototype of wood would cost, in fact, nothing you s.Polsterung, materials processing and design neiderregendem Pimp able to hold still, it is up to you.



Antwort von Mr. B:

Schonmal Thanks for the reply.
Stabilize such a Shoulder Mount at all well?

I think if I put a reasonably comfortable and especially good shoulder mount would build, would mean considerable expense because of the construction market in the near as good as nowhere, as is the with the tiltable handle more difficult.

Suppose I would be this "pro camera shoulder support" order from India, I had a little higher quality materials than wood, and the thing about this is still s.becker supported. I think it would be possible to design only s.einen grip to hold and with (the other hand, if necessary, rotate) to s.Fokusring.

But if a Shoulder Mount in general much less stable than for example a Flycam, I'll renounce them, to change the sharpness. Recordings in which I play with the sharpness, I could then stop there only on the tripod out.








Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude these are 2 different pair of shoes

Flycam kan man to make good but not so much in a VideoDSLR

Shoulder pad is somewhat more what.

Shoulder thing I'd made handicrafts and Hozlatte ner ner arm of an old chair.

Then the whole time cost with tripod screw and wood tested at about 20 euros

Then I would spend money for a FlyCam .... But then this wide AngleObjektiv and the sharpness taken to infinity ... now approximated by removing the object and try to bring out the best ..... But where in you have to say that here without Control Monitor aka more often might be blurred synonymous depends on the object / Lens / movement speed.

Conclusion shoulder thing first time and AHA Effect tinkering experience, then spend money for more toys

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Axel:

It's like DeKid B. writes: Flycam etc. only) in conjunction with autofocus (; does the yes mW in video mode is not reliable or not () or Fixkokus; strong Wide Angleund relatively closed Aperture.

Whether a well-stabilized shoulder pad? It is the typical, classic way to wear any at all portable professional camera to years, since around 50. A design with rope around his neck, and support staff in the pit of your stomach you never see. Looks exciting, according to Jules Verne and the insanely men with their rickety crates, but I do not think it was a long work.

The Indians have this


Antwort von Mr. B:

Ok, Flycam, Glidecam, Steadycam and co. I should exclude in this case.
For a D90 is therefore primarily a question Schoulder Mount, which I can now either buy, or even tinkering needs. Now I am not so the hobbyist, had little opportunity to obtain the parts and would not synonymous with running around a cheap-looking design ...

Axel, you are not saying the "support staff in the pit of my stomach" is more of an unnecessary element that can be synonymous but decrease. Is the Indian Shoulder mount rather then fine, or possibly it lacks a counterweight?
The auction is for me very interesting because of the synonymous Matte box, which alone costs as much else.

Thanks again :-)



Antwort von Axel:

"Mr. B" wrote:
The auction is for me very interesting because of the synonymous Matte box, which alone costs as much else.


This Mattebox I'll sell for ¬ 10 plus 3.90 shipping. Seriously (; e-mail) in the profile.

I do not trust me to write negative things about synonymous cine-city, because I know some of the things. Overall, one can save a lot. *** *** I think is that you selected part of a flop, and the selected top of me (; with the Zacuto rig for 1500 ¬ is certainly better). That was well balanced, right?



Antwort von Mr. B:

So dissatisfied with the matte box? Is eientlich rotatable, because if I s.Fokusring turn, would Matte box, if it is firm, yes ^ ^ rotate
If rotation of your proposal :-) I was quite impressed

As for the shoulder mount, I am now in a dilemma: either with a little effort, a cheap-looking thing tinkering that can be synonymous but they cost around 30 euros, or this thing Mittelprächtige from India, or the very expensive Lösund in the form of of you posted Shoulder Mounts.

In the description of the Shoulder mounts is that it synonymous ideal for Matte Box and Follow Focus would, so I could upgrade the thing synonymous, and it looks good quality. If no better option available, I'll give a bit more from ...



Antwort von Axel:

"Mr. B" wrote:
So dissatisfied with the matte box? Is eientlich rotatable, because if I s.Fokusring turn, would Matte box, if it is firm, yes ^ ^ rotate


It is a kind of sun visor that with this golden brass screw is clamped to a smaller lens hood with 72mm filter thread. With no lens rotates with the filter thread, if you are modifying focus or zoom. However, the thing is not more effective than a rubber lens hood, and if my views of the sun in front reinscheint, I hold short (hand over it, well, if I have a free, you'll say). I think it's so schrottig that I have not even tried to turn the filter slots, I guess is that it does not work.

"Mr. B" wrote:
In the description of the Shoulder mounts is that it synonymous ideal for Matte Box and Follow Focus would, so I could upgrade the thing synonymous, and it looks good quality. If no better option available, I'll give a bit more from ...


That's true, a sexy Mattebox, as it is not these mini-coal shaft should definitely be synonymous slightly larger, because then they (the standard holes for the rail system, "Rods" or "Rails") has. A followfocus you can even operate only on the rails, and of course, is synonymous to "driving" your Nikon in the most convenient location for you to rely on a tripod plate rail, together with much other stuff that one can still pack off. Trying times, the stakes get as such, 45cm in length. That alone makes at least 100 ¬ ...

(; You see, I speak of the "Pro" support with) the rails.

I do not want to drive in the No financial ruin. I can recommend DIY only synonymous when one buys what eventually finished, you can assess its value better afterwards ...



Antwort von Mr. B:

"Axel" wrote:
It is a kind of sun visor that with this golden brass screw is clamped to a smaller lens hood with 72mm filter thread. With no lens rotates with the filter thread, if you are modifying focus or zoom.

We are talking of photographic lenses of Nikon, and at least mine rotate very well.
Quote:
That's true, a sexy Mattebox, as it is not these mini-coal shaft should definitely be synonymous slightly larger, because then they (the standard holes for the rail system, "Rods" or "Rails") has.

If hot, that you offer to me and to me is synonymous of the originally favored this system, go to the Pro Shoulder mount on it not because he is too small?

Edit: If your mat is only s.ein Box 72mm filter size, it fits with me not at all, I just noticed:-D



Antwort von Axel:

Specify the ebay-ja article is that (to the filter threads on the adapter and the aforementioned minor sheet metal hood) is. (In my case, Mattebox was unexpected bonus, a member of Slashcam of Mink bought me Flycam 5000 for the Canon A1) has the same 72mm filter thread. Only a Mattebox is fit for a fully exploitable Wide Angle 16:9 (; reflexes, especially when it is disturbing) and the rotating filter stages for ND has graduated filter, it makes sense that I would be with me rumschleppen. This is Me: The Blender.

If you are sure that rotates the filter thread on your lenses, you can's of course equal to forget. I can not verify that I am not at home. But I do not think so.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Dir mal ne Idee kuck the Manfrotto Modo actually has to Shoulder Mount and SteadyCam function in one and is pretty cheap

http://www.fotokoch.de/fotowelt/Manfrotto_Schulterstativ_modosteady_23471.shtml?prepage=stative.shtml

On the Manfrotto Page You can do it better considered synonymous.

Especially you, it can determine the time to test or to order free shops, and if there is nothing to send back.

MfG
B. DeKid








Antwort von Axel:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
Dir mal ne Idee kuck the Manfrotto Modo actually has to Shoulder Mount and SteadyCam function in one and is quite favorable.


Not bad.



Antwort von Mr. B:

Manfrotto gibts kg of the following problem: load 0.75
My D90 but weighs more than 1 kg

Now I know what I should now slow-longer buy ... If my two rods s.Pro Shoulder Mount erstmal are not as important would be the beginning of me posted Shoulder Support System will still be reasonably ok? Gibts without a mat that is synonymous Box for only 100 ® This would then leave the bar and quite favorable for Beckner I can.
But I'm not sure what exactly is worse off, apart from the lack of Rod.

"Axel" wrote:
If you are sure that rotates the filter thread on your lenses, you can's of course equal to forget. I can not verify that I am not at home. But I do not think so.

Since the various D90-/5D include Mark II kits of the "large" producers a Mattebox, I thought, this can generally rotate, for (; almost?) Any filter size of photographic lenses rotate when the focus is changed.
If this is the more affordable speakers is not the case, I can remember it well. WOBI I would have rather been a matter here anyway to let the camera look more like a film camera - has thus only a psychological effect ^ ^ ists Yet somehow important to me ...



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Axel" wrote:
... If you are sure that your lenses rotate during the filter thread ... But I do not think so ...

Straight guide, which prevent twisting during focusing or zooming, but today really standard, but there are certainly of major manufacturers still synonymous optics, which rotates not have: Then, the actual filter size with.



Antwort von Mr. B:

Ok, now gilts seriously because s.morgen I'm away and when I come back I want to shoot:-D
I think it is now a Shoulder Mount without Matte Box (may-indeed try to tinker not rotated).

A) For a little over 100 ® could I so here
B) Then I have
here of the Hague
C) And finally
Axel's proposal
D)
This is probably nothing more synonymous, right?

Man is the difficulty:-D
If someone can tell me that option A is fairly reliable, if I can dispense with the rod, then I would probably order this.

Thank you again for the previous comments



Antwort von Axel:

Still remember the old Super 8 cameras s.The someone?
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The put on a handle, such as: ebay item 110407036468, new for less than `n tens. Half Nix, nix whole? Furthermore, we have already discussed above, yes.



Antwort von Mr. B:

So only a handle, then I would not have. If anything, what I've posted shit, I give a bit more of (; for Shoulder Mount with Rod), would indeed s.Hobby fun and do not have any grip on shaky shots ;-)

So I guess you posted of the Pro Shoulder Mount? I just saw that the whole synonymous nor can screw on a tripod, that I could use synonymous there. That would actually be perfect :-)
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