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Frage von Addie:


Hi,

I have in the past few weeks, hardly anything else made for me with the topic of HDV Cam employs ... . Nevertheless, some questions to me as not quite enough or I'm too stupid to understand them and Answers relating to find. So I try it again with a new request.

I have MiniDV tapes with Ulead VS 9 via firewire to the PC with Scene detection captured, as a project in VS and edited on DVD output to an old tube TV view.

The principle, I would just like to keep, just in HDV with my HV20 - but that's quite so simple is not. Or seems not. So far only because I thought the problem s.die edition (HD-DVD or BluRay format war = is currently too expensive and / immature, etc. ..) but now I have your impression that the whole issue is not only difficult s.der but even when capturing?

I would like to remain in Ulead VS because I just know s.besten and hobby for me as a filmmaker is synonymous affordable. Can not just spend 500 ¬. Now I have read in some other contributions synonymous forums that the HDV capturing something of problems, especially separating after scenes. You already know whether the in VS 11 + does? My problem is synonymous, that I have the trial version is already downloaded that, but my wife very much s.PC just have to work (because it's synonymous Money brings important ;-))) and therefore I would not even let alone to install for testing I came.

Let us assume then times that it works and the scenes I can handle: for I have always MiniDV native AVI files processed (ie, not capturing the same MPEG-2 (or?) Can convert), because it's simply the best Quality brings. How is that for HDV? I come there with all the format specifiers that you use it all professionals, not clear. The native HDV files, it means the. M2t? Or h.264? WMV-HD? Or of the one in something else converted? Eventually, one is a transport stream, but what does that mean exactly? I still rotating through ...

Then issue: because as I said the whole HD-DVD/BR-D-Kiste still not through, I would like the finished project back to simply tape's play about the movie on the camera screen to s.HD. But "easy" on tape's seems not to be synonymous, because in some articles I have read that when's it back to tape for example, after a few minutes simply was canceled, gaps on the tape, etc. What are your experiences are there? And how's s.besten? Is it because under the issue "DV tape" or you have to choose only the Project as a video file stored on tape and then play? And which video format you choose from?

And lastly: the tube TV so far, I have always under project settings in the recording and issue "Bottom field first" is selected. Then ran's of the DVD on my standalone player synonymous quite unnecessary. If, however, I "Full Picture" is selected, then skips it. If you s.der tube? Or s.meinem player obsolete? For my future HD plasma but then I must always "Full Picture" is selected, right?

You see, I'm actually a single question mark ... :-(.

Maybe you can help me yes.

Gruß,

Space


Antwort von wolfgang:

Already VS10 + can capture HDV, and it may well VS11 +. How well the function for separation scene is, however, I dare not judge yet, especially not for a Canon. For VS10 + gabs already Mögichkeit, of HDV split separate files to import.

The HV20 is an HDV device - heitß, we captured m2t (ie mpeg2 transport streams of files). And then there is the material again as m2t to view it on the camcorder to play back. The Halbbildfolge for HDV2 remains top field first - and so the issue must be synonymous for the camcorder made.

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Antwort von Pixopolis:

Hello Wolfgang,

thank you ever for first aid! I am now turning to real s.Wheel, because I do not know what settings need to be made anywhere.

"wolfgang" wrote: [...] Especially not for a Canon. For VS10 + gabs already Mögichkeit, of HDV split separate files to import.

What is the "primarily for a Canon? Are the so-particularly complicated?
On the possibility with HDV Split synonymous, I have already thought of. Know the program is still nciht, but have read quite a bit over it.

"wolfgang" wrote: And then there is the material again as m2t to view it on the camcorder to play back.

But how? About VS11? Or whatever somehow directly from Windows?

"wolfgang" wrote: The Halbbildfolge for HDV2 remains top field first - and so the issue must be synonymous for the camcorder made.

Okay - you can s.zwei posts (at least in VS 9): under the project properties in general (incidentally, the default is "lower field first"), when the recruits, and the issuance synonymous with the settings again - there is "bottom field first" default. Neither do I so on "upper" one, while capturing and at the output? When or why do I need and then actually "Picture-based"?

Space


Antwort von Addie:

Oh exactly synonymous and what I did not get answered: What will mean for heaven's proxy? Or smart proxy? The VS 11 + can probably synonymous. And since we can re-define 1000 ...

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Antwort von wolfgang:

HDVSplit is a separate program for the capture of HDV camcorders. It separates the material into individual files for each scene, and then imported it into the editing program. I'm just not sure the HV20 already supported, because the so quite new. In addition, the m2t code for Canon devices differently than the Sony devices. Should HV20 times when users ask whether you can say something about this - I can not because I do not have HV20.

If the material is ready to cut, there it is from the Schnittprogamm from - on the hard drive, or synonymous from the editing program on the HDV camcorder back.

Halbbildfolge usually both at the upper half can, based on Picture to go tends rather to bucking when you come of 1080 50i. And plasma or LCD TVs deinterlace the material anyway, there has been no problems. For the PC monitor you need a suitable player for playing, which makes - about the vlc media player (freeware) Setting bob deinterlacing.

The proxy interface is preferred for older PCs thought - this is where the m2t materials such as by replacing DV proxies, which are easier to machine and are cut. And only when the output is the Calculate (rendering) of the final material by using the original material. About DV -16:9 as a proxy, or synonymous mjepg-avi files. You can use this option, but already in VS10 + a-and off depending on whether one wants to work with.

And yes, the settings of the program are generally cut very important. Although in principle the project settings which correspond to the raw material (ie, 1080 50i, when material has HDV2, with 1440x1080 and 25 fps), and the render settings regardless of which correspond to the material, which is precisely the issue himself.

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Antwort von Addie:

Dear Wolfgang,

You're an ace, I thank you of the heart! Your detailed answers put me 10 steps to the front! I can understand when your professionals, not every beginner question or you want to, so I am glad all the more so when someone takes time!

Quote: Although in principle the project settings which correspond to the raw material (ie, 1080 50i, when material has HDV2, with 1440x1080 and 25 fps) ...

I did yesterday spaßerheitshalber times the trail version of VS11 + on notebook's played - at least for viewing ... ;-) It is above me your attitude just came forward as 1080/60i. Why do I need the 60i's or what makes a difference for / causes this?

Also, there's WMV HD (I think), but that is only a video file for playback on the PC?

And as the last (first ;-)): The HV20 also has this 25p mode, you can set s.der Camera. Must be in the editing program then synonymous accordingly? 25p is specifically designed for plasma? In the description of the HV20 is something that is not merely that a certain film effect ....

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Antwort von wolfgang:

1080 60i is the format for NTSC cameras - you will probably a device from the PAL-space, and this is 1080 50i. In the project settings, therefore, 1080 50i recruit - and synonymous with the output to 1080 50i output.

WMV-HD content is a high resolution wmv file that can be synonymous to the disclosure of this material may be used on DVD. Unfortunately takes to stop the output wmv-HD line long, and is only gradually possible, what the quality is not improved, if one spends 25p. Better 50p are there already, but whether the VS11 + encoder can, I do not know.

As far as I know, the 25p mode of the HV20 so synonymous and not a true progressive mode, but by overprinting Specify the fields are derived. For a true cinema effect but is probably even more. It would be synonymous here on a trial on whether VS11 + from the output of this format is mögich, and then the camera when playing back the format synonymous accepted. Personally I would rather stay at 1080 50i, both because of better motion resolution, partly because the VS11 + really easy to spend.

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Antwort von Addie:

Sehr klasse, danke schön!

Will I get the opportunity to just try everything out and possibly post, if others do not already do so.

Quote: WMV-HD content is a high resolution wmv file that can be synonymous to the disclosure of this material may be used on DVD

But will the HD material then the standard DVD player eh car downscaled to PAL and is anyway not HD?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So some of the details here are long extensively tested and tested. It comes with the task depends on what you just want to do. Many users, who now HDV cutting, of course, want the material in their own living rooms with high play. But just choose specific devices, such as the TViX HD, the Kiss, the SC200 or the synonymous Xoro 8500 - possibly synonymous, the PS3, or the output from the PC. In the future will be synonymous to BluRay or HD-DVD player will be interesting - if the times have learned 50i. For this edition give time for many people the HDV material as MPEG2 m2t stream from, and use the above players for the output s.Plasma or LCD.

For the transfer s.Freunde, acquaintances or customers is synonymous, however, often in the passing standard definition is needed, which all current DVD player can be. That is precisely of HD resolution to SD down conversion, but when the output from the editing software - these DVD players can play with the high resolution material absolutely nothing to start.

WMV-HD is a high-resolution format, as well as DivX-HD. Some high-synonymous, the player can play.

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Antwort von Addie:

Hello Wolfgang,

yes, I had already read, thanks. Let's see what the future brings.
I was just unsure if you have with

Quote: WMV-HD content is a high resolution wmv file that can be synonymous to the disclosure of this material may be used on DVD

my test: ANY standard DVD player can be on SD-DVD burned wmv-hd files play back then and they are synonymous with high. I hardly believe that I can ...

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