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Intermediate-AVCHD-Schnitt - Programme?

Intermediate AVCHD Editing - Programs?



Frage von amlug:
Juni 2009

Hello,

I want to grow me a AVCHD camcorder, probably the Panasonic SD300. After thoroughly researching this and other forums I've now realized that liquid I (, (!) Native editing, multiple tracks, only modest effects, color correction can forget), synonymous if I sought-1000, - Euro for a new cut PC-would extend a bit ... or am I mistaken?

Good, WoWu writes here in the forum relating to interesting and always speaks again of future possibilities in Win7 and finally optimized NLEs ... But well, sometime in the future precisely.

So I am looking for a cut program for intermediate cut. I know that to be the Canopus HQ codec pretty much the best, that would be so Edius Neo.

I cut (, SD) at the moment with Magix VdL 2008, with whom I can cope well, there may be intermediate-cut opportunities with the latest version or Magix Video Pro X 1.5?

What alternatives are there's more to explore?

And maybe someone can give me an example of a hardware compilation, which would be needed for intermediate-cut?

Would be nice if someone there could help me.
Many thanks and greetings

Amlug



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

How about with the fast cutting and the final proxy Rendering with CUDA technology of the PowerDirector 7 Ultra?

Look at you but once the CyberLink website to do so.

Recently, there were 20,000 free licenses for PD7 Ultra of the PC world, I have tested me worried, not at the program and been so bad.



Antwort von amlug:

Hmm, thanks for the suggestion, but the program seems to be featured on her even more settled among Magix VDL. And (, as I understand from screenshots), only 6 have predefined tracks? This indeed is not at all times, in spite of good performance ...

Sorry, and thanks anyway.

I would certainly have to change to a more professional field who wish to (; around the league Video Pro X for 250, - in the Magix upgrade).








Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Then you look once EDIUS Neo (; there are missing some important features, such as an audio mixer, 3D-equipped PIP, etc.) or with more features for EDIUS Intermediateschnitt.

For Nativschnitt may come into Vegas or Premiere Pro CS4 question.

About all the programs you'll find lots of information on manufacturer's website.

Quote:
WoWu writes here in the forum relating to interesting and always speaks again of future possibilities in Win7 and finally optimized NLEs ...


As a practitioner you can now start with hints such thing, maybe 2010 or later.

Note:
PD7 Ultra does have a powerful range of functions, superficially, it is underestimated.

Hardware:
This


Something is obviously not a professional, hardly a firm works with Video Pro X and have not at with AVCHD.




Antwort von motiongroup:

Quote:
I cut (, SD) at the moment with Magix VdL 2008, with whom I can cope well, there may be intermediate-cut opportunities with the latest version or Magix Video Pro X 1.5?


Hello, VDL2008Plus supports the Intermediatschnitt one switch makes you particularly in terms of stability of the VDL next product line does not necessarily ...

Question that arises is where do you want, what should be the outcome?

It also remains to differentiate and understand the difference between proxy and to Intermediatschnitt.

The six fixed signs should be considered in PD7 differently because the story can be extended BIB.



Antwort von amlug:

Quote:
VDL2008Plus supports the Intermediatschnitt one switch makes you particularly in terms of stability of the VDL next product line does not necessarily ...

I do not know, VDL've never been an AVCHD-watch file. This then converts to mpeg2 HD, I've just read?
Quote:
Question that arises is where do you want, what should be the outcome?

I turn shorts and Kurzdokus (; in terms of technology as a one-man team). Enprodukte primarily for acquaintances, which initially would be more down sampling to DVD, but synonymous as high resolution video file for the PC - is also being considered a distribution on vimeo (; 720p).
Quote:
It also remains to differentiate and understand the difference between proxy and to Intermediatschnitt.

I know. But as a good intermediate solution with no loss of quality is to bring themselves up, that I actually both right ... But I only know of Corel Ulead NLEs that they offer proxy cuts, and at least an older version with which I am not coped at all well when tested some time ago.
Quote:
The six fixed signs should be considered in PD7 differently because the story can be extended BIB.

Ok, I'll run the trial version but at times the opportunity to heart.

mfg Amlug

Edit: Oops, since I've overlooked in the rush, the second answer of Peter Bruno ;-)

So ok, I'm already convinced, PD7 test out times, as well Edius Neo and s.besten synonymous Vegas. Premiere CS4 is even (as a student version, ¬ 474.81) still very expensive ... And, well, professionally, he said synonymous rather "on an ascending scale of professionalism from your mobile phone to film makers Peter Jackson a little gen up" ;-)

Thank s.euch both!



Antwort von motiongroup:

Hello Amlug, want a question why do not you stay with VDL08 pros?

Has everything, everything, everything exported, it s.The only a few conventions one must keep and have it running.



Antwort von amlug:

I'd already, I was just not sure that it is suitable for AVCHD in a not very-high-end PC (; just now to 1000, -). Nativ probably yes, will it? And it is true that here MPEG2-HD can be used as intermediates? With acceptable quality loss?

I try (: can the HD editing performance on my current one, probably not four years of PC and I wanted to wait for the new acquisition, until I realize all the details and I have just zb Alternative Programs for Choice, wenns Magix but it should not pack. ..)

mfg Amlug

PS Get me now, times get AVCHD footage to try and do it to my computer ... I even have time ;-)



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

S.Sicherheit you win if you yourself do comparative testing!



Antwort von amlug:

I have before, as I said but erstmal trial basis on my old PC. (; s.end I buy the new and the editing works is still not ...) The eligible Programs have already downloaded (; test versions) and are awaiting installation.

If anybody Testclip perhaps one of the Panasonic HDC-300 handy? AVCHD AVCHD is not supposed to be equal of that model and I find nothing spontaneous about Google.

And my Magix 2008 Pros will not import. Mts files. "The file format of [fileName] can not be read. Please make sure that the affected disk is not full or write-protected. If you do not have permissions to read and write in this path, please contact s.den administrator. "
I'm not sure if it is perhaps s.den security settings of Win7 RC1. At least ichs'm running as administrator, the folder is not read. (; Windows Media Player plays the file without any problem, incidentally.)

I remember having what schomal regarding the importing of. Mts files even read here in the forum, but just do not find it again ... could someone help me there?



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Look here:

http://www.videoaktiv.de/Testvideos/Panasonic/Testvideo-Panasonic-HDC-HS-300-EG.html



Antwort von motiongroup:

Hello amnlug, when you paste the files into the timeline you will be the basic settings of the system messages are not disabled demand one way or another whether you want to convert them ...

Quality loss is not really registered to ...

here is a link how it works ..

http://www.matusz.ch/blog/tags/magix/

viel spaß dabei








Antwort von amlug:

@ Bruno Peter: Thank you.
@ motion group: Too late read. VDL had already installed 15 under XP. Test it again later with VDL 2008 under Win7, thanks.

A short Conclusion of me. First PowerDirector 7 was my turn. Has "beginner-like" than Magix. In fact, hiding behind more features and possibilities than expected. I am still on vacation Filmer-beginners-oriented. But: the Testclip is still seen as a halfway film.

Vegas Movie Studio Platinum. UI looks outdated, may be synonymous s.XP. Testclip: nice slideshow. Seems after the first impression of some functions have more than Magix, but looks confusing.

Since my 2008er Magix VDL will not, I'll find a newer test version. Spaßenshalber erstmal Pro X. Well, two preview monitor, very nice correction, improved color. Otherwise, at first glance like VDL. Does the. Mts to importer, (convert, but in what?). After the 2.5-fold clip duration: an error message without text. No converted video. Very nice. In the Magix folder there is a. Mpg file with an appropriate name. Only 100 MB instead of the original 120th Import does not work, "The file format can not be read". WMP does not play, but VLC. Original File: subjectively slightly faster than in slideshow Vegas.

Then just yet VDL 15th Again the question, convert it to. This time klappts, mpg file is 105 MB. Pure Play is at least faster than unconverted into PD7. Might be necessary, perhaps even work on my current PC with. I then export again as uncompressed video (; Avi Raw) tested. The 1-minute clip then weighs proud 9 GB. Subjectively determine no difference between all three versions, but the clip had as low-light recording the already significant noise.

Premiere for the fun I had briefly tested. According to the file format not supported error. Interestingly, the much more professional premiere acts in Comparison to Vegas consumer version much clearer and more inviting to me, synonymous what could be that I have ever worked with After Effects.

Edius Neo, I might test later, I just had no desire to sign in again with full address and all ...

I still do a test with a normal light recording in Magix, if the quality difference at the transition is still not (; or is barely visible), I would probably stick with the old ways. I'll put together my PC and then again for review in the hardware department to submit ...

Many greetings and thanks s.alle
Amlug



Antwort von derhaxn:

Amlug hi!

I am in the moment synonymous in the same situation as you, I just switched to avchd synonymous and synonymous to me now wants to move up a new computer and new software section, so I find it quite interesting what you report on your tests with different progs such. I am also synonymous with the sale of pcs easily overwhelmed because I just do not know exactly what I want s.besten eighth, and how much should I invest eventually.
at the moment I like the amd phenom x4 955BE II - Processor well as for his service but he is quite favorable and, together with enough memory (; + nvidia neatly cut to the wealthy ... you should have been synonymous promising something?



Antwort von Frank B.:

My personal opinion is, and I confer synonymous are entirely wrong, because I'm not quite at the cutting edge of computer technology:
Let the fingers of AVCHD - direct editing, synonymous with a modern 1000, - Euro Calculator.
Take rather have a 600, - Euro Calculator and building you a Canopus Storm HD or HD Spark one (and I think for the Storm again there is a special action, including Edius 5:11 for about 800, - Euro available in an older capture card or editing software). The HD Spark (and only HDMI output) is supported by the cheaper synonymous Edius Neo. By doing this you'll surely happier than with the Gewurschtel to AVCHD Direktschnitt!

Frank



Antwort von Frank B.:

A small addition to my previous post:

The HD or HD-Spark Storm are hardware cards that allow for real-time display via HDMI to a third (; bie dual monitor mode) monitor. The HD-Storm, unlike the HD-Spark synonymous record over HDMI signals and capture on demand the same in the HQ codec.
The use of the cards but not absolutely mandatory. The conversion of AVCHD files, the software takes over. The converter is necessary in Edius and Edius Neo synonymous in already included. So I just have the synonymous use of this software in order to benefit from the HQ codec. My previous post was so little misleading.

Frank



Antwort von amlug:

@ derhaxn: Exactly those Processor synonymous I had in mind. In Mindfactory Forum brought to me this compilation
mfg Amlug





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