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Filme machen: Mit einer Panasonic miniDV Kamera vorstellbar?

Make movies: With a Panasonic miniDV Camera imagine?



Frage von Blackeagle123:
Oktober 2005

Hello,

I'd be interested, now time for a script to turn appointed a short movie, with specific effects, ussynonymous depth of what will be a problem. (Must stop working with ultra zoom, open Aperture, etc.)

I would then record the material with a Panasonic NV-MX300. (16:9) Do you think that the finished film is at least approximately s.einen movie that you see on TV? Or do you think that the 3 Chiper with miniDV can not?
(I once heard that miniDV can never look like film ...)

If it does not look good, what else can I do? Can digital filter in the postproduction of the film so improved that it looks like a moderate feature film? Or is that just another Camera w / possible?

What has especially Ganzbild feature or 25 frames, or fields with it? (My camera has indeed 24fps, frames in which PAL)

Hope you can help me
Am grateful synonymous for each additional tip that I should sBändern when shooting with this miniDV film and note when turning.

Love Greetings
Constantin



Antwort von molch:

Hi,
you always have to consider that the camera is really only one of many tools in the film.
synonymous with a poorer cam can achieve good results.
if you want to watch the film on television, is it mainly to design good film, but a "film look" can exacerbate s.besten by 16:9 in a few digital tricks produces knows.
if you have after effects, so that duplicate your movie on the timeline in the upper version you put one blur strength with 30-40, you turn to set the image - curves> s.and effect round the curve in the upper part down, then you ask the visibility of the level at 30-50 and set the overlay to multiply.
which is usually very very good.



Antwort von jens:

Hi Constantin,
VIDEO course will look like your not like a feature film. It appears you have not you thoroughly engaged with the topic FILM LOOK. Since I know you're a little Cleverle, but you will certainly find it quickly werden.Hier on SlashcamZwei Möglichkeiten fallen mir spontan ein, um deinem Video den "Glanz" of "Film" zu verschaffen. Hole oder bastle dir einen 35mm Adapters (http://www.adapterworld.at.tf/ - http://www.pstechnik.de/en/digitalfilm-mini35.php
http://www.redrockmicro.com/) zugegeben: die Bastelvariante ist für einen 15jährigen wohl s.realistischsten. Und dass du basteln kannst, hast du ja bereits with deinem Kran bewiesen ;-).
Dieser Adapters hilft dir, die Schärfentiefe erheblich zu verringern.

Softaretechnisch fallen mir die Cinelook- and Magic Bullet-PlugIns ein. Wobei Cinelook deutlich teurer aber keinesfalls (meine Meinung) besser ist. Magic Bullet bekommst du für AE oder Premiere, etc.. Mit der Magic Bullet Suite (AE) bekommst du zu dem einen fabelhaften Deinterlacer. Wenn du magst, kannst du so 24p (23,97) erzeugen. Gehe jetzt aber mal nicht davon aus, dass du dein Video gleich fazen wilst ;-)
Soviel erstmal.
Schöne Grüße.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Nope, that is, with the camera rather not.
You could try to you (for the weekend so, I always say is, but really cheap) a DVX100 to lend.
Where did you come from?

I maintain more important than camera are: a good location, great set design, setting a good light, bold beautiful / inappropriate / mounted / or standard setting and driving, a clear and good sound.
V. s.The framing and accents such as colors, (hard) shadow, light, make good camera work. Sure, there are synonymous series, where only diffuse light is made and prevails at best a 3-point lighting. Is it synonymous. The synonymous already sees after film.

Regardless of the Film and Book / Instrumentation / Production / Directing.
Sure, if one still has a reasonably good camera, the better.
Bestefalls real 25p and manual Curves, Cine-gamma, etc.
The look will make even the aspect ratio, say 2.35:1, 16:9, 4:3, etc., and a good compression.



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hello s.alle, so really thank you very erstmal s.alle, especially how fast it went here!

But now the question, what does it exactly filmed with 25p to?

And else is important:
16:9 I will record, as already written, Lighting ... eh ... I actually have before, with construction lights work (3 pieces)
Steadicam I have built only of the Hobbythek (s.der but I am planning with my physics teacher doing research in youth to develop a new and different Steadicam, in which case special springs needed, etc.)
The "Camera" knows her so ;-)
Diffuser films which I have purchased cheap on ebay, I'm curious how to be, then I'm blue color transparencies, a small blue spot and would not buy CTB films to make light of the construction lights on.

In addition, I have just downloaded the demo version of VideoX movie look so gehts already better off, but in AE I've got really more opportunities to play, I'll look the other plug-ins to all cases still synonymous.

My father has a digital SLR camera with such a lens. Why do I think this is simply not before the camera, or build it before? (Somehow, that have made the website so complicated with motor, etc.) Or are there problems with the sharpness?

Love Greetings
Constantin



Antwort von Fan29:

A tip about the color. Switch to manual white balance mode, and do not put the full white on white but on a slightly bluish sound. The result is a slightly brownish and "warmer" picture (but of course normal) still. The schonmal looks a lot better and "filmig" from normal than with colors. If the picture is too red (which can happen at the wrong shade of blue), simply set again with a different shade of blue to white balance.



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Blackeagle123" wrote:
Hello s.alle, so really thank you very erstmal s.alle, especially how fast it went here!

But now the question, what does it exactly filmed with 25p to?

And else is important:
16:9 I will record, as already written, Lighting ... eh ... I actually have before, with construction lights work (3 pieces)
Steadicam I have built only of the Hobbythek (s.der but I am planning with my physics teacher doing research in youth to develop a new and different Steadicam, in which case special springs needed, etc.)
The "Camera" knows her so ;-)
Diffuser films which I have purchased cheap on ebay, I'm curious how to be, then I'm blue color transparencies, a small blue spot and would not buy CTB films to make light of the construction lights on.

In addition, I have just downloaded the demo version of VideoX movie look so gehts already better off, but in AE I've got really more opportunities to play, I'll look the other plug-ins to all cases still synonymous.

My father has a digital SLR camera with such a lens. Why do I think this is simply not before the camera, or build it before? (Somehow, that have made the website so complicated with motor, etc.) Or are there problems with the sharpness?

Love Greetings
Constantin


Where do you live?
just go to the next film distribution and ask if you may take a "few" film residues. Does it cost nothing or max. 5 euros.
A little frost diffuser, which reddish, orange, in different strengths.
Then you buy a couple of dimmers and turn them against the construction lights. They're much too hot and dangerous. Gates can be built supposedly for aluminum foil. Clothespins and slide in front.
Change problem: lamps, when they are dimmed, their color temp.
A couple of cardboard boxes you can use to shut out light or be used effectively in the shade. (Flags or Abdeckfahnen considered).
Need synonymous you can have a black curtain (Molton) to darken or use a controlled lighting situation.
The White Balance you do not have to necessarily s.Dreh. Is it just as well later s.Calculator. Imagine, however, one s.Besten Television next to each picture to kontroli. Live s.Dreh I mean!



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Blackeagle123" wrote:
But now the question, what does it exactly filmed with 25p to?


http://robaweb.de/glossar/inhalt/ProgressiveScan.htm

meld dich doch mal synonymous and regie.de at the Film Forum s.and read as diligently with. There are more the filmmakers, for the amateurs.
(Nothing against slashcam;))



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hello, is the problem that there is absolutely no film distribution in the vicinity, the nearest I'd go ne 3 / 4 hour. : (

Do you have good contacts with such a film lending? Can you'll probably buy such a cheap slide set, what you get with such a rental?

Love Greetings
Constantin



Antwort von PowerMac:

are you just need some time in the next few months pass by.
Call for times before and wonder if you'll get a few radicals.
will work out somehow;)



Antwort von Casper23:

hello constantin,

We have 3chip with a dv camera produced a short film that ran at the berlinale 2003 - with a camera a 1chip doku, which was synonymous projected in cinema ... not therefore have a dv shy in front of the cameras and still trying to look more the story adapt, think s.blair project witch or a man bites dog, or found, all movies, struck by its unusual film look, but the errors by the "near" the story looks very s.der before, were successful --

mut have for your first steps, not afraid of errors, so it is a good touch, do not forget the sound and the music (about 50% of the filmes ton) and the intensity of the look darsteller ask - I would recommend for the draw the settings you want to rotate (storyboard) that will facilitate the resolution you ...

otu
www.own-productions.de



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hi Power Mac,

would be truly great if it would work out.
Have s.Wochenende times Brokovich seen in Erin, the so auffält by its extremely warm colors ...
I found this Effect synonymous made uur cool.
I will try my views in this "film look", found under the heading of a lot. Unfortunately, my son is no money to buy expensive Plugiin ;-)

Love Greetings
Constantin



Antwort von jens:

"Anonymous" wrote:
hello constantin,

We have 3chip with a dv camera produced a short film that ran at the berlinale 2003 - with a camera a 1chip doku, which was synonymous projected in cinema ... not therefore have a dv shy in front of the cameras and still trying to look more the story adapt, think s.blair project witch or a man bites dog, or found, all movies, struck by its unusual film look, but the errors by the "near" the story looks very s.der before, were successful --

mut have for your first steps, not afraid of errors, so it is a good touch, do not forget the sound and the music (about 50% of the filmes ton) and the intensity of the look darsteller ask - I would recommend for the draw the settings you want to rotate (storyboard) that will facilitate the resolution you ...

otu
www.own-productions.de


Yes, yes. Basically, you can not say that no one with MiniDV movies-could produce films. Besides matters of dogma-ranging list of yes "Buena Vista Social Club" to "Muxmäuschenstill" or "The fat years ...". There just are many, many approaches.
Jens
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