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New: 3-chip camcorder of JVC Everio hard disks of heidi - 29 Jun 2006 16:02:00
JVC has introduced a further new model from the Everio series, the Dreichipper GZ-MG505. The specifications are similar to the GZ-MC500 (1 / 4, 5 "CCDs, function 5-megapixel photo, 10-times optical zoom, 16:9 recording), to be recorded on the storage media: the MPEG-2 video data on a 30 GB hard drive. Up to 7 hours to fit in best quality option on the disc (synonymous can be recorded on an SD card.) As far as interfaces are USB2.0/1.1, AV/S- Video out and a Mikofoneingang available. approx. price 1399, - Euro, available s.end June (dhssofort).


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Antwort von Nightfly!:

Kann mir mal explain why one must always equal the record MPEG2? The plate size but loose enough for 1.5 h DV material.

If you do not want to cut and edit, so MPEG2 used immediately, should we just record on a DVD.
I lit the concept in any case a not.

Gruß,
Nightfly!

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Antwort von Vitrend:

Although I am not sure, but perhaps the record does not create the data rate. Has anyone ne idea how fast is the plate in the cameras?

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Antwort von Vitrend:

Replenishment: The fastest, the camera seems to create what is, 8.5 Mbps. This is definitely the highest rate of MPEG2 which he is able to record. And we all know DV 25 Mbit. Will already have a reason why there is no option for recording AVI.
Greeting
Vitrend

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Antwort von Phyro-Mane:

views count ...
The DV stream is 3.125 Mbytes / sec.
In the Camcroder should probably get 1.8 "hard drive for use. These have, according to Manufacturer a data rate of approximately 6-7MByte, some longer synonymous.
The bottleneck should not therefore lie with the boards.
It is more likely that either the IDE controller fails, or want to establish the Manufacturer directly as a solid MPEG2 format, which I like to think so.

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Antwort von Nightfly!:

"Phyro-Mane" wrote: ... or want to establish the Manufacturer directly as a solid MPEG2 format, which I like to think so.

That would be my guess synonymous!
Pity synonymous!
Gruß,
Nightfly!

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Antwort von dasepp:

So, I think that there is a reasonable basis for mpeg2:

unless one or the other fairly ambitious video editing, motion gfx ersteller and so will certainly be noticed that dv-avi exception of the processing speed has no real advantage because, as regards for instance, the color is just cheese dv ... you can with the best dv codec its rausspielen matters and it looks cheesy ... video work was clever, ergo there must be honest with her or re unpomprimiertem ....

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Antwort von Jan:

And what's with the low data rate and only 1 of the Picture "Reinaufnahme" and the 5 calculated from the past / future (GOP 6)?.

MiniDV has a constant data rate of passageways 25 Mbit / sec and saves each picture on an individual.

Again and again the picture quality of MPEG is criticism, except perhaps for HDV, artifacts, slight blurring of the trained filmmakers are already discernible.

MPEG 2 - Why does the JVC?

Perhaps due to 1 to get a lot of material on a small-medium, and may accelerate the creation of DVDs, a JVC HDD camera so only takes about 12 min for 60 min dubbing footage, MPEG 2 so it is already deleted the encoder was again well 1 hour lasts, so only the DVD burning, in mini DV, it takes much longer to come on a DVD, except for one time transferred via firewire to DVD recorder.

LG
Jan

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Antwort von Nightfly!:

"Jan" wrote:
Perhaps Reason 1 to get a lot of material on a small-medium,


Clearly, the motto of quantity over quality stands

"Jan" wrote:
and possibly to accelerate the creation of DVDs, a JVC HDD camera so only takes about 12 minutes dubbing for 60 min footage


If DV would be synonymous on the hard drive would not be here as real-time dub neim MiniDV tape. But for the same Country lifestyle recording time 2-3 times as long (depending on the MPEG compression).

"Jan" wrote:
MPEG 2 is already deleted so that the encoder again takes just over 1 h,


The Encodingzeit meet with the näturlich people with slow Calculator,
other hand, the encoding quality in software encoder is better.

@ Jan: I have not been out of one non-cutting moviemakers. As I said, who can then get a DVD synonymous same camcorder.

Gruß,
Nightfly!

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Antwort von Jan:

Dub 60 min at a JVC MG's film takes on a good computer system and USB 2.0 minutes really about 12th But have no idea how exactly 1 hour movie takes encode to MPEG 2, used to have heard here, at best, 1-1 minutes then 60th

LG
Jan

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Antwort von kmw:

MPEG 2 is postponed, the new recording standard - ect, see the HDTV camcorder, DVD camcorder ...

Of course, if it were synonymous to write to the disk to avi (yes is synonymous to the comuter stream), but hardly anyone would buy the hard disks recording camcorder, but by less than two hours to be able to. ... not even see the top pros ;-) HDTV ....

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Antwort von Frank B.:

"kmw" wrote: MPEG 2 is postponed, the new recording standard - ect, see the HDTV camcorder, DVD camcorder ...

Of course, if it were synonymous to write to the disk to avi (yes is synonymous to the comuter stream), but hardly anyone would buy the hard disks recording camcorder, but by less than two hours to be able to. ... not even see the top pros ;-) HDTV ....


Well, I guess that in the near future, rather the standard for high definition MPEG 4 video. Contrary to all the protestations of the industry will probably decrease the compatibility of the systems. Therefore, and (for financial reasons), I'll wait and check out what is there so everything established.

In the meantime, would have a DV camcorder that can record to an internal hard drive has an alternative to the band models.
But only if the recording in DV format takes place. On a 30 GB drive way, are more than 2 hours of digital material. Advantage: faster data transfer to PC, no band-specific problems (dropouts, tape salad ...) and when compared to IT hardware MPEG 2 better (faster) processing options in the editing program.
Even better, I think it would, however, if time could realize a Manufacturer to install an electronic system in the camcorder, the DV tape recording in addition to any external USB - or FW hard drive allows. That's been possible only through sauteur additional hardware. If I have understood correctly, would the new Canon XL-H1 already have this feature.
I would look for a 3-chip camera with many manual controls, and this additional feature synonymous today in the era of change to HDV, etc. a large market potential. In view of the JVC Everiomodelle I once synonymous say that such a model would be feasible at the 1000, - euro mark.

Gruß Frank

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Antwort von Isnogud:

Can someone explain, perhaps, if) (and in what areas the GZ-MG505 is better than the GZ-MG30? I'm using at the time of the GZ-MG30. The quality is more of the bottom (not very bright and in Comparison with my old MiniDV Camera contribute the images simply flat)
Thomas

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Antwort von Jan:

You know I do not think so much of consumers of JVC, but the 505 is better in all areas, thanks to larger sensors gibts synonymous better picture especially in less light. Yes indeed between the two models are so synonymous around 400 ¬, the MG was 30 yes of VideoaktivDigital criticized very hard to have the gun delivered 60/70/77 but quite ordinary test results, although a MiniDV was still ahead of you , 505 is the showpiece of JVC in the consumer market ...

Though I must admit I have sold 10 customer s.ca MG 30/33, it returned None, None saw the blur, the bad AF, the aberrations, the slight stuttering, well probably a case for the very demanding group.

LG
Jan

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Antwort von Frankheindl@web.de:

So did the 505 yesterday and am actually quite happy.

Camera is slightly bigger than expected (got one for Comparison Sanyo HD1 and a Panasonic NV-GS120), but fits comfortably in the hand and is good in weight.

Operating concept plausible. Additional joystick s.Monitor offers many options. Be switched between photo mode and video mode must be (unlike the Sanyo), but should not be a problem. You can choose what will save my video or Stillimage (SD / HDD)

Weight is acceptable readiness after turning in about 2 seconds.

The photos in daylight, I fnd acceptable (in each case, equivalent with the HD1, synonymous when you do not really know if the autofocus has been in focus, since he does not hear or "feel"). Good shutter lag. Save on Sandisk 2GB Memory Card (ot included) or HDD without any problems.
In a darkened room, the display is very bright and beautiful contrast. Unfortunately, the illumination via Flash is not too good (maybe 2m outreach), which solves the Sanyo significantly better. Likewise, the photos of the Sanyo are
sharply in the dark.

In any case, the photos can be indoors hardly compare with those of a digicam (I find).

So, here are some photos:
http://rapidshare.de/files/25843483/PIC_0015.JPG.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/25843880/PIC_0032.JPG.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/25844551/PIC_0016.JPG.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/25844998/PIC_0034.JPG.html

A detailed video test comes later, I say only this:
Video considerably sharper than the Sanyo HD1, hardly wobbler color fidelity and true (so far) for outdoor shots. No noise, not synonymous when zooming. Micro perhaps slightly overdriven, zoom slightly sluggish. But here, very good autofocus - no difference to my MiniDV of Panasonic.

Cu later
Frank

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