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Panasonic HVX200 oder Sony PMW EX1 (?)

Panasonic HVX200 or SonyPMW EX1 (?)



Frage von RocknRoyal:
August 2008

Hello,

the purposes for which the camera is needed, you can see the thread:

http://forum.slashcam.de/grundausstattung-bis-ca-15000-vt63449.html

Is Sony's EX1 "so better, so it justifies the extra costs?

Camera should "film look" offer, which of the color etc in the HVX200 is yes.
Is it the one with the EX1 can record in 24P with the European version and it can be?

Gruss
Alexander



Antwort von camworks:

once more with lightning photographed is the ex1 no longer be used (such times after rolling shutter problem "). The HVX200 is clearly lichtschwächer. you need to decide what you think is worth. if you want to make high quality stuff, would be an alternative HPX500. which combines the advantages of ex1 and hvx each other (but crude costs more).



Antwort von jazzy_d:

If you look at the website would Sonyauf and the EX1 raussuchen would with all technical details, one would see that the 24p can. If an effort of 2 minutes.

http://www.sony.ch/biz/view/ShowProduct.action?product=PMW-EX1&site=biz_de_CH&pageType=TechnicalSpecs&imageType=Main&category=XDCAMCamcorders








Antwort von Jürgen F.:

Hello Rock Royal,
Guck mal hier:
www.panasonic-broadcast.com
especially: HVX201 (the successor to the HVX200 and stronger light) or HVX171.
An interesting system with the P2 workflow.
The HPX 500 is currently already offered cheap second-hand.
Probably this is the right cam for you.

PS:
Can we still ask what 2nd Foothold you have?
Regards, Jürgen F.



Antwort von PowerMac:

The EX1 is the best choice.



Antwort von camworks:

in the dream, perhaps. ;-)



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Thus,

still, I am between the HVX200 and / or EX1 s.schwangen! Is there room in Karlsruhe / Stuttgart or just somewhere, not a really well-stocked retailers with a large assortment of first-class advice and - because the spot is something else again.

What is it but for the subsequent purchase order (possibly online) a "very good, reputable and established online shipping in Camera + accessories?

Gruss
Alexander

Will I now look at the HVX201 and HVX500 View ...



Antwort von camworks:

is the HPX500.

online retailers: zb bpm, etc. teltec



Antwort von Jürgen F.:

Rock Royal,

eg Mediatec in Cologne you can spot all models s.Set
test.
The cameras, which you have chosen, you can only broadcast dealer / system houses can be found. This is something men do not buy online ungesehn. Mostly you'll find in these systems houses synonymous good advice for other equipment: Sound, Tripod, Lighting, Batteries, etc.
Regards, Jürgen F.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Rock Royale" wrote:
... Is there room in Karlsruhe ... a really well-stocked stores ...

A good reputation has www.freytag.de.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Yes, absolutely. Freytag is a bit pricey, but nice. Since I know everyone. Above all, my favorite video operator Valentino. The now Kameraassi the movie rises. ;)



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

I thank you, because then tomorrow I will be right at times Freytag and look me on the spot advice - that should be the best!

Gruss
Alexander








Antwort von PowerMac:

Say's PowerMac has recommended ...;)



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

One would have said,

I will not be very synonymous to a corner to be pushed out (wedding), because I still whir in the head 2 more ideas ....

I know "not" as one calls it, but I've mentioned that I like football games record with my HV20 and I have this problem "once I make a swing" ... it is later during the swing a "VERY" Picture is blurred ....

I wonder if the EX1 is so much better is that it directly to justify almost 2000 ¬ ...

So perhaps I should rather draw a Rounder? Football, Wedding, Short Film (EVENT IS REALLY ONLY OCCASIONALLY THE CASE, ie concerts etc - rather less - as I said in the immediate vicinity since real competition would sit)

What I still VERY important, not at what I had said: I want very much to work with SloMotions, I do not know if a purely software solution, or whether the purchase of a camcorder must be taken into account.

So, "slow" down screws can almost always yes, but I know which video it nunmal then "liquid" and what looks like where it then "jerky" ...

This is a nice example of how a film I like:
http://www.vimeo.com/1271306

and this is allegedly a HVX200 and I think the class and simply recording the Slomotion for example 00:23 .......
Gruss
Alex.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Thee is clear that the geleuchtete and above all a staged clips commercials are? Taken with Zeiss Primes?



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Thus,

that this "made" and is synonymous to the use of light has come, I thought that I have and what "Zeiss Primes" is - honestly? No clue, a Lens? But there is at least HVX200a! What I like is synonymous combining HVX200 + Redrock M2 (seems so affordable)

Oh, and have no idea with what this was, however, so I imagine a perfect wedding video before (clearly the pros seem to) but in my eyes just perfect!

http://www.vimeo.com/930397

Gruss
Alex.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude

The Zeiss hats but certainly not located ;-)

So http://www.zeiss.de/ or http://www.schneiderkreuznach.com/ you should already know ;-)

...............

For both links, however, we speak of "by recording" as heard much about this. More than a Camera and Equitment.

But yes - so the results should look like, because you're right. Whether you succeed, try again. Whether you are paying customers for your work, please separate issue.

Camera class that you target, however, is certainly to use.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Rock Royale" wrote:
(...) But there is at least HVX200a! What I like is synonymous combining HVX200 + Redrock M2 (seems reasonable) (...)


The Camera is a HVX200. And? The image quality is of the optics, which are upstream adapter means! Zeiss Primes like the piece cost 10,000 euros, better synonymous times from 15,000 to 20,000 euros. These are fixed focal lenses, you need three to five of them. Thus, you are then loose at 30,000 euros. At such prices, the purchase price of the camera is irrelevant. You can borrow Lenses but synonymous. Beginners Only one gets safely Primes with no home ...



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Ok,

ie ¬ 30,000, I will certainly not spend for Lenses! I actually come a little bit of photography and have various Lenses here, but this much I might expect synonymous my Lenses s.im best case cost about ¬ 4500 (Canon) is a simple Body 400D which makes their service ...

Thus,
as I said - I am still of the opinion that I have about 15,000 ¬ a Camera plus Equigment get enough fun to make and very good results (I once synonymous experience implementing own ...)

What is it with fast movements and the opposite Slowmo from the two aforementioned camcorders in Comparison?

Netter Gruss,
Alex.



Antwort von raymaker:

You will notice again and again when a photographer into the video business will once owned. I enjoy the thread right now. :)



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"raymaker" wrote:
You will notice again and again when a photographer into the video business will once owned. I enjoy the thread right now. :)


Now you but common ;-(
I think because I really should be a separate video project to make this bias from the Gar to make ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid








Antwort von B.DeKid:

To SlowMotion

All images p.60 the second up to 3200 images, so it is working.
Everything else is done with shutter settings you see (sports) photography.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Thus,

Freytag was now in Karlsruhe - the seller is really "a lot of time" and made me a lot and explains what can I say? I got my camcorder and ordered paid - it will probably have s.Mittwoch! It was the "SonyPMX EX1", which I regard as synonymous rental version is already there in our hands and he could of gave me the HVX200 discouraged and "if at all" then click the HPX (?) 170 referenced ... He gave me the benefits of plausible EX1 called (which I sometimes forgot again * g * - that was too much information)

I've bought (the exact names I do not, the bill is at the bottom of the car and am just too lazy to go to the car * g *)

SonyPMW EX1
2 x 16GB memory card
Manfrotto Tripod (for about 900 ¬ with fluid head)
Sennheiser ... how does it still K9/K6? with Tonangel, windscreen etc

Then we have another offer for light boxes, radio micro etc, but since I have not yet accessed.

All in all I have left about 6000 ¬ .... for lighting, additional sound recording options (radio etc), Dolly, Steadi, crane ... what synonymous always ....

The only ... I was told a decent Steadisystem costs 8000 ¬ fast times ... but the parts for 2000-3000 are ¬ but destined for semi-synonymous not so bad, right?

Gruss
Alex - I am delighted as a child on Wednesday ....

PS: What I found odd ... it was on display at the Camera ... always much in Picture "red" - as he said this was the orientation of the sharpness or something like that ....



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Rock Royale" wrote:
... What I found odd ... it was on display at the Camera ... always much in Picture "red" - as he said this was the orientation of the sharpness or something like that ...

Search times in the manual under the heading of "Peaking", then dissolves the puzzle of self Alternatively you can leave it on the synonymous Freytag-EX1 Homepage to read ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von altesschulhaus:

Hi,
to congratulate EX 1, I'm such a self-owner and can only be good on the optics, the light and the film-look report.
A wedding video with this camera is a breeze, and slow-motion and work in low light environment.

For me, it has the best picture in this price class. The semiconductor chip is not just by 1 / 3 "should be replaced. Better yet is the EX3 as you can the above still Lenses interchanged, but this is disadvantageous for the wedding!

Films times by candlelight and tell me what video camera in this class see hinkriegt.

The workflow, the storage medium and the support of Sony diskutable Are the biggest weaknesses s.dem thing.

I often borrow my other cams added: No, this Picture!

Have fun
old school



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Oh, and

an addendum yet ... I was now again in Freytag yes, because I am there "Magic Bullet Looks" bought and we have moved again and I take the EX-3!

Gruss
Alexander.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Good choice.
What is the point at which cost?
Is there an affordable WW synonymous match the EX3?

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von camworks:

reports we look at times when you turn the flashes and what experiences you made with the ex3 searched.



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

@ Camworks ...

So - on the one hand, I and my intentions are certainly "events" are not defined very clever - and I speak rather of "local" bands and events - there is in most cases, not of "flashes" are spoken and when the words of the seller in Freytag (apparently enjoy a good reputation around) is to be believed, then they just sell the EX1 and EX3 in "EVENTBERECH", which he assured me there and with the lightning was not so wild ... etc. ..

I am curious - the anchor of the EX1 and EX3 was in a reasonable (about ¬ 2000 more) and I get a good price and then gave me the s.meisten viewfinders and found the display with the sunscreens, etc. .. everything in all, she came to me by the handling better, so the decision to EX3.

Gruss
Alex



Antwort von domain:

The through bolts verhunzeten individual images, it is synonymous has no preference as to whether all or only half the picture is concerned, this is absolutely no argument from my point of view.
On the contrary, I still prefer to see half the frame properly exposed and the rest just spoiled. Also, you can in speed did not differ whether the half (more or less) correct exposure was random or whether the flash was rather strong, which is out again so synonymous and can be observed.








Antwort von RocknRoyal:

Oh, and

the main cause of EX1 to EX3 to change was the interchangeable lens .... and just handling! Why? See your EX1 before the EX3?

Gruss
Alex.



Antwort von weitwinkel:

"Rock Royale" wrote:
Oh, and
See your EX1 before the EX3?


only in price!
gruß cj



Antwort von camworks:

"Rock Royale" wrote:
@ Camworks ...
then they just sell the EX1 and EX3 in "EVENTBERECH", which he assured me there and with the lightning was not so wild ... etc. ..

Now, in such amounts, I am personally of strengthening and weakening convincing. equipment rental and a day later the price on the purchase price credited zb

the experience with the non-judgmental way, was meant, as I wrote earlier, I think that the HVX200 for events synonymous not optimal. therefore synonymous my recommendation for the HPX500.



Antwort von r.p.television:

I would not be as synonymous to the statement of a Verfkäufers leave. I hardly believe that he has tried it himself.
The fact is that until now, unfortunately, no one suitable test footage is online. However, there are pictures of a U.S. police car with rotating signal equipment (medium-speed movement) and it looks horrible from.

http://www.freshdv.com/mjeppsen/video/ex1_strobe_cmos_rolling_shutter_artifact.mov

If the result of this video to strobe or flash thunderstorm - synonymous fast pans of scanners and other stage lighting - transfers, then you can imagine how this looks.
In any case I would not take the risk.




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