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Photokina: Panasonic GH2: Update mit Schwerpunkt Video

Photokina: Panasonic GH2: Update with video focus



Newsmeldung von slashCAM:
September 2010

Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Photokina: Panasonic GH2: Update with video focus




Antwort von pilskopf:

Confirm, for me, but the wait worth it, sher geil, today is a beautiful day, I am looking animal on the Cam, but now I have to make me even thinking about the Lenses, no idea what I should take. Is not as much choice but I know it still not enough.



Antwort von Frank B.:

everything sounds very promising! Can someone tell what times about a possible price and the release date? Even if the 30 min. Recording limit is still there, as I assume once strong.








Antwort von Bernd E.:

Delivery is expected s.end November for official:
GH2 899 ¬
GH2 + 14-42 999 Euro
GH2 + 14-140 1550 ¬
The 30-minute limit is still there.
Source: Panasonic



Antwort von Frank B.:

Thanks Bernd!
The synonymous all sounds very nice;)



Antwort von pilskopf:

"Frank B." wrote:
everything sounds very promising! Can someone tell what times about a possible price and the release date? Even if the 30 min. Recording limit is still there, as I assume once strong.

Videos with a maximum of 29 min, 59 s s.einem pieces are included.

And that ought to really rich. That's enough even for any wedding. : D


Age which is cool. I will take the kit with the 14-42, the 9-18mm, the 20mm pancake and then maybe even a zoom, which depends on the price. : D Or just with the 14-140 then without zoom. Let's see what they want for the 100-300 but I have to type in just under 1,000 ¬. I would still prefer the 7-14mm but that is me with ¬ 1,000, almost synonymous to expensive when I have the 7mm breathtaking shots, so in photographs, on video and looks especially with a Steadicam is not quite as chic of view I think for photos, but pretty cool.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Pilskopf" wrote:
... Let's see what they want for the 100-300 but I have to type in about 1000 ¬ ...

At the risk that you now swallow joy s.deinem Lunch: The suggested retail price of 629 euros.



Antwort von Jan:

Hi,

is relative to the whole Monatenlangen Hochgejubel little revolutionized technology came out. The Resolutionwurde tightened with the same sensor surface (you can see even from other manufacturers, how hard to do from the many pixels of a video image to make sensible 1080s), 50 P does not entirely synonymous, because the camera bears in 50 i. Whether the new processor rausholen so much can? By GH 1 hack the data rate is already higher before the predecessor.

Beautiful is a manual record level.

The camera is probably definitely become faster, for a DSLR, you should not rankommen anyway.


I would love to see the test pictures, hopefully available here soon a test of whether the camera has really improved significantly.

VG
January



Antwort von NEEL:

SlashCAM compares ungehackte GH1 GH2 with the new ... Well. 23 Mbps and 17 Mbps at 50i in 25p. More you need the new GH2 not say. I'll bet that, like the newer GH1en has been made hacksicher ... Finally, to still a quality gap existing at the video Iron AG-AF101 ... I guess that with a clean chopped GH1 40-50 Mbit AVCHD will be imagewise still better than GH2. And no, the slow extraction CMOS in practice is not a problem in the GH1!



Antwort von pilskopf:

"Bernd E." wrote:
"Pilskopf" wrote:
... Let's see what they want for the 100-300 but I have to type in about 1000 ¬ ...

At the risk that you now swallow joy s.deinem Lunch: The suggested retail price of 629 euros.

Cool. : D That's a 200 to 600mm, but I just do not know whether the stabilized synonymous, but I take on. price that is like.

And what is for now gemosert again? The GH1 has no HDMI out as GH2, GH2 is the generally much longer than the GH1, and who does not want to, but stay with the 1 Series, the itch but no one.



Antwort von gast3:

for some seems to be the main error is not fixed: it does not stand on it Canon or Nikon, but still Panasonic.

And hacksicher, exist?



Antwort von DSLR-Freak:

;-)








Antwort von nordheide:

"Gast3" wrote:
for some seems to be the main error is not fixed: it does not stand on it Canon or Nikon, but still Panasonic.

And hacksicher, exist?


I find the part really well. In particular, we see that at Canon, what's with Panasonic or Sonymöglich.

Maybe it will speed time to market a comparable V-DSLR of Canon.



Antwort von Kabe:

"Neel" wrote:
I guess that with a clean chopped GH1 40-50 Mbit AVCHD will be imagewise still better than GH2.

Of these, one must go well. Really exciting but it is only with 4:2:2.



Antwort von DSLR-Freak:

http://www.panasonic.de/html/de_DE/Produkte/Lumix+Digitalkameras/G+Micro+System/DMC-GH2H/% C3% 9Cbersicht/5959560/index.html? track info = true

Incredibly impressive. It reads almost like an April Fool's joke. I thought it would come only in 2-3 years.
Since I can from a technical perspective, all of Nikon and Canon in terms of film set on Ebay.

Can someone help me? Why now at all Canon?



Antwort von nordheide:

Why Canon?

Quite clear: If you already have 10k or more Lenses in a suitcase and integrates these synonymous for photos.



Antwort von Jan:

"Neel" wrote:
I guess that with a clean chopped GH1 40-50 Mbit AVCHD will be imagewise still better than GH2.


Exactly what I mean, let me convince but happy with a practical test of slashCAM. Only the presented SonyVG 10 (2000 ¬) has with the "photo sensor" with 14 million pixels made entirely in the shade, and Lowlight aberrations were bad - rather Pana SD 707 level.

I was only at the Months of vortex utopian features on Red Hat level too much, the presented Camera to do with it.

Yes, the equipment in the new GH 2 was improved, it will probably be the fastest system camera. Rec is beautiful.

Cheap? Well with Optics 1000-1400 ¬ is synonymous to level SLR, I would rather go to a Nikon D 7000 & Canon 60 D and raise the price slightly, but that can each decide themselves.



And yes, Canon will very soon introduce synonymous what ....


VG
January



Antwort von nordheide:

If the rumors are of a short-term performance of a V-DSLR look in the video and video-AF heard anything yet.



Antwort von Jan:

Canon is coming soon with system cameras, according to my information even during the Photokina. DSLR synonymous to come, at least a 1000 D successor.

VG
January



Antwort von nordheide:

System Cameras, lenses than without?
ok, but that is another professional league and hardly einsatzbar.



Antwort von gast3:

Jan has written:

And yes, Canon will very soon introduce synonymous what ....


they already have: EOS 60D, but this is supposedly a sales flop, as you might read here :-)

and the new XL? Radio silence?
But on one-9000th ¬ pilots anyway I need not squint!








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Nord heide" wrote:
... System Cameras, lenses than without? ...

On the contrary: "system camera" means yes MIT Exchangeable optics.



Antwort von nordheide:

With an interchangeable lens and "almost" - Video-Body and AF is now kurtfristig nothing.

(The 60D has no video and no video AF-Body)

Eventually something will come with looking like a medium format camera,
but the 1DsMKIV is not even out there, yes.



Antwort von DSLR-Freak:

"Jan" wrote:
Yes, the equipment in the new GH 2 was improved, it will probably be the fastest system camera. Rec is beautiful.

Cheap? Well with Optics 1000-1400 ¬ is synonymous to level SLR, I would rather go to a Nikon D 7000 & Canon 60 D and raise the price slightly, but that can each decide themselves.


Man oh man this is so completely ignorant. I definitely looked at the list again??

Neither Nikon or Canon (especially those new cucumbers) can only begin to compete with the features of GH2. We are talking of development projections in years! The Nikon is an absolute disappointment, no one needs 24p. The Canon has the same technology as the 550D.

Completely resistant.



Antwort von gast3:

Now, the (Canon) but actually presents something new:

Mouse-Calculator in a chic red, seen on Canon Rumors!
The thing that makes her properly!

And I confess: the most beautiful turn is the Canon logo!



Antwort von DSLR-Freak:

PS:

If you like to see the differences of 7D for GH1 (Hacked):


The GH2 so far is topped with. The camera is fps in 4K dominate 40th And sharp.
"Located GH2's the spec sheet in English. 40fps see 4 megapixel mode has no limit in JPEG. Just seven images in RAW. This is hugely promising for a 4k video hack. Clearly, new hardware is capable"

Who speaks as of a still doggedly 7D??

This is ridiculous.



Antwort von mammut:

May I ask in between, for whom the GH2 be interesting?

If the Camera synonymous its place in the professional field have or is that still the Canon's reserved?

If you build a rig in the synonymous one?



Antwort von nino makav:

"Kabe" wrote:
"Neel" wrote:
I guess that with a clean chopped GH1 40-50 Mbit AVCHD will be imagewise still better than GH2.

Of these, one must go well. Really exciting but it is only with 4:2:2.


4:2:2 chopped GH1 can for months (but as MJPEG).



Antwort von glnf:

But guys, I do not quite understand.

So far, the DSLRs two things well (good contrast range, type of film behavior in the sharpness) and a bad thing: they all solved through the tape to already worse than mediocre HD video cameras. This is the way s.der only way in which the sensor is read. I hangs together images of a DSLR series recording, I get a true time-lapse effect, the focus is also phenomenal. Of course, synonymous Resolutionherunterskaliert on HD. Why DSLRs are so synonymous preferred for animated films - for big film productions.

I for one wonder why only every New Release, whether the sensor can finally be in full Resolutionausgelesen. Synonymous to finally agrees and the sharpness of the picture is not, according to the subject, will irreparably destroyed by Moires.

The first camera, which makes properly, would I buy. We can then synonymous on branding, data rate, codec, Interlaced vs. Progressive and talk like that next. As long as the cameras are to be used but only very limited, plays great no role.

Whether the GH2 is this camera we will only have to see. Possible but it could be finite.

Best regards, g



Antwort von MarcTGFG:

I have an EOS 550D recently and use it occasionally synonymous for Full HD video without having to be dissatisfied. Nevertheless, I am interested in the GH2.

What interested me was: 4 / 3 so has a smaller sensor area than APS-C. How many screens you have to go down there in addition to a similarly small things done with depth of field as the 550?

It even has a 20mm F 1.7 Lens for 4 / 3, could use the man.








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"DSLR-Freak wrote:
GH2 will dominate ... ... 40 frames per second at 4K 40fps ... see 4 megapixel mode has no limit in JPEG. Just seven images in RAW. This is hugely promising for a 4k video hack ...

With all due respect for your enthusiasm: 4K and 4 megapixels are two quite different things. The former is, depending on the version with a Resolutionzwischen 7 and nearly 13 megapixels. The 4 megapixel mode, the SH-GH2 apply the way, only the aspect ratio of 4:3 - 16:9 remain at 2 megapixels.
The estimate of recording time available on the English-Panasonic-synonymous site a little different than in the quotation above. Therefore, one could with the 40 B / sec maximum speed up to 40 JPEG photos s.Stück (recording time = one second shoot), while the function in RAW at all would not be possible. So if you in fact a practical utility in "4K 40B/sek with" see, the GH2 is hardly the ideal camera ;-)



Antwort von ThomasKluge:

"Glnf" wrote:
But guys, I do not quite understand.


You talking to me from the soul. After the SonyNex VG10 bezgl. Alias | Wavefront Mayaing / moire and sharpness failed so miserably (I'm over the shock is still not gone over it), I hope to GH2.

The guru of the GH13 writes,
"Vitaliy Kiselev" wrote:

Looking s.zoom levels it looks like
1080p with 2.6 zoom is indeed 1:1 pixel mode.
If it is so, it is major breakthrough.
...
And all this without any aliasing.


This would mean that one pixel mode using the zoom level set so that there is a 1:1 relationship, so no alias | Wavefront Mayaing.
It is anticipated, but then the noise more, since a smaller area of the sensor is used. We will have to await the first test clips.



Antwort von matthias321:

"MarcTGFG" wrote:
I have an EOS 550D recently and use it occasionally synonymous for Full HD video without having to be dissatisfied. Nevertheless, I am interested in the GH2.

What interested me was: 4 / 3 so has a smaller sensor area than APS-C. How many screens you have to go down there in addition to a similarly small things done with depth of field as the 550?

It even has a 20mm F 1.7 Lens for 4 / 3, could use the man.


That I would be interested synonymous burning after me now synonymous really wanted to grow a 550D, but after all the hesitation devices:)



Antwort von Trust ART:

"MarcTGFG" wrote:
I have an EOS 550D recently and use it occasionally synonymous for Full HD video without having to be dissatisfied. Nevertheless, I am interested in the GH2.

What interested me was: 4 / 3 so has a smaller sensor area than APS-C. How many screens you have to go down there in addition to a similarly small things done with depth of field as the 550?

It even has a 20mm F 1.7 Lens for 4 / 3, could use the man.


As the depth of GH2 with 4/3-Sensor, you have to open a whole Aperture more comparable to a shallow depth of reach, like a full frame sensor. From my experience with the GH1 I can tell you that a really significant selective depth of field effect in standard or wide angle with 20mm only at the start Aperture 2.0. Better still you do it all on the same and a couple packs against ND. All thing is the 20mm synonymous actually so good that the area on which it arrives and then you still synonymous is really sharp! The 20's really is a great part.

If you want to explore but a really 4/3-Sensorkamera once a selective depth of field, you have the possibility of old 16mm cinema lenses with c-monut use connection! That there is with apertures up to f 1:0,85!
I've bought a 25mm 1:0,85 Tarcus on ebay. Both of Schneider Kreuznach as Angenieux Lenses are comparable. Sure, these are currently being re-Liesen traded at record prices. Voigtlander in November with a similar Nokton 25/0.95 come on the market. If you ever want to see an example of how Aperture promising 0:


But back to GH2. For me as an owner of a GH1 is certainly the manual record level one of the most important improvements. 50i I need. By name synonymous makes the GH1 50i. On my way to turn me 25p is much better. The data rate you get synonymous with the GH1 incremented with the well-known hack.

Very interesting, however, is the freely-connected HDMI output. This raises one hand, the question of what signal comes out because, as it can be used for the other a control monitor.

The sound is synonymous but not the new GH2 me my BeachTek DXA-SLR to replace. Because it looks like the synonymous GH2 has no headphone output. Without which one can control any sound! I do not synonymous, that the internal record level of GH2 to the same conclusions concerning cause of the noise ratio is, how to work with a balanced sound mixer. Since you will probably have to resort even to the iron.

Just as it seems, has the Panasonic with the GH1 GH2 is in many things consistently refined ", but in practice in some very relevant things in front of the AG-shielded AF-101. What does not is that you could not rebuild his GH1/GH2 to a film camera with fascinating properties. And one must always bear in mind that this is not a single camera goes to a special always whole system. The GH2, AG AF-101 and the new lenses, the y4 / 3 system is a step back next turned professional.



Antwort von 0711video:

And yet ne witty wonder:

as described earlier: if one of objektivpark canon or colleague for 10 000 ¬ already has, which is not switching to gh second

do you need to use other objective or as tamron nikon, then an adapter or with the objective of connecting not gh2?

joachim

For details please enlighten!



Antwort von MarcTGFG:

@ Trust Art: Thank you.

I had tried in between the biggest friend of the people, Google.

Accordingly, the depth is 4 / 3 to about 25% of the over APS-C.

Then I stumbled on a simple Excel sheet where you can quite easily compare and calculate the depth of field can be a function of sensor size, focus distance and aperture.

http://www.rene-grothmann.de/Fotografie/Schaerfentiefe.html

It found that if at KB equivalent 40mm focal (20mm at 4 / 3, 25mm in APS-C) reached a similar depth of field, if one at 4 / 3 on F1, 7 and goes on APS-C to more than 2.1. So not a whole Aperture!?

For example, focus to 1.5 m, Tiefschärfebereich about 30 cm.

Sounds really, so if you at least for nearby objects could already work well with depth of field. Will there but your Praxiserfajhrung not be questioned.

Well, at 3 meters distance sinds then already 1.2m focal range ...



Antwort von Trust ART:

At one ¼4 / 3 camera with appropriate adapter are due to the very low level of support 20mm practically all other connected Lenses. However, they are then only used manual, with no autofocus and Apperture control! Alone with the new lenses SonyNEX the series will no longer work, because the one with Auflabemaß of unr to 17.5 mm are still "built krzüer. At c-monut's watch must be, however. First, the s.Aunahmeflansch Druchmesser may not have greater than 37.2 mm, otherwise the adapter funtionieren not synonymous - you have to check individually for each lens - and there are some, like the 25mm 1:0,85 Fujion in the far to the Camera protrudes, so that it would damage the seal. You mus try because that is a lot, until one has found his Lenses.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

But if the network already exist ne list of lenses that fit on 4 / 3, had seen since times like that.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: The new Voigtlander had surprised me synonymous ... I got the idea that the synonymous same guys, "not just" for Bessa series so constructed had it.

Because when I look at the Kodak film with NEM 100erter s.der Bessa imagine I get so scared ;-)


.................................

http://www.cameraquest.com/adapt_olyE1.htm

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/lenses.html

http://www.4-3system.com/modules/lenses/

http://www.four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/lense.html

Unfortunately, I do not find this list where a lot of synonymous old lenses were already listed




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