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Schlechte Qualität beim Filme brennen, trozt Firewire / DV anschluss. ???

Poor quality films burn, Despite Firewire / DV port. ?



Frage von Mentos:
November 2007

Hi, I have the following problem with my Camera (SonyHandycam DCR-TRV14E) wants I filmed on my PC, and then burn to DVD.

The whole time I was solved as follows:

- This film on MINI-DV cassettes recorded
- With a FireWire over Firewire card in my PC with the program Ulead movie distiller 2.0 on the PC is playing.
- Then burn to DVD.

Result: Quality was acceptable, and sometimes (when zooming closer) bit worse.
I thought the quality was lost s.den cassettes.

So I shall try.
- A laptop with USB port (no firewire) taken
- Film of the camera directly (without cartridge) on the laptop, with the above-mentioned program Ulead.
- Then via usb stick to my pc and then burned. (with the same program)

Result: The quality was bad as when I open the cassettes made. when moving the camera. verpixelte the image horizontally. (maybe you can reasonably imagine that)
So s.allen edges and corners (in photo) were (for the move) as in pixel form länglichter

then I have times s.meim pc directly via the firewire card then tried again without tape directly to disk. but the quality was exactly the case.

That I do not understand. I did but now optimal. of the Camera (digital) on a firewire cable (ie DV signal) directly onto the HDD. and then burn directly to DVD.

ps: I've already synonymous tried different dvd player.

I hope someone can help me.

many thanks already times in advance.

mfg



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hello Mentos,

on MiniDV cassettes will be digitally recorded what exactly synonymous via firewire from your camera comes out. As long as the cassette tape so no mistake is to have no preference whether you are on tape or directly into the PC aufnimmst.

To view the video on a DVD is to burn it in the MPEG2 format. Depending on the quality and setting of the encoder may cause of the phenomena you described. So look again in your program and make the encoder for the best quality level. (the film distiller I do not know)

Martin



Antwort von Mentos:

Hmmm ...

It showed I'm the (admittedly somewhat comical) konstelation that I filmed with the camera did, then the signal was once stored on the cartridge, and again was the same signal through a cable to a tv (in some 40m away) to watch TV , of where it via SCART to a dvd recorder has been transferred, and was burned on dvd. (the quality on this dvd was much better as on the cassette) For this I thought it is s.den cassettes.

how come it. So the quality difference between the above-mentioned media?





Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hello,

the only thing that stopped me is the man with a DV camcorder synonymous in the Long Play mode can record. How the impact on the quality, I did not.

How does the Picture from you of the Camera (with and without tape) directly on the TV ausgibst?

Martin



Antwort von Markus73:

"Mentos" wrote:
how come it. So the quality difference between the above-mentioned media?


I think with the "horizontal Verpixeln" you have the Effects of a playback device for the wrong Halbbildfolge observed (keyword: Interlace), with quality that has nothing to do first. On the PC from the camcorder recorded DV material can not easily be directly again, as the Halbbildfolge is optimized for TV.

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von Markus73:

"Martin Dienert" wrote:
the only thing that stopped me is the man with a DV camcorder synonymous in the Long Play mode can record. How the impact on the quality, I did not.


Not at all. It only increases the likelihood of faults (drop outs), but the quality is basically the same.

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hi Markus,

Mentos writes "ps: I've synonymous already tried different dvd player.". And a TV interlaced video should play back correctly. I assume you created a DVD to the video hardware DVD player s.TV to see.
It could of course still be the Halbbildreihenfolge of the film was swapped distillery.
Let's see what Mentos says.

The Long Play with the sounds logical. DV is DV.

Martin



Antwort von Markus73:

"Martin Dienert" wrote:
Mentos writes "ps: I've synonymous already tried different dvd player.". And a TV interlaced video should play back correctly.


That's right, yes (although we have the details of the settings do not know).

I am referring here above all to Mentos' second post, where not clearly said that there are two DVD's ( "the quality on this dvd was much better as on the cassette"). Hence my suspicion that maybe DVD playback and DV s.TV File s.PC directly compared. That would explain interlace effects.

For the first posting for me as a possible explanation for not more than one: The transfer via USB, with many devices only in significantly reduced quality possible.

Moreover, in all kinds of DVD production in general is always the encoder as a limiting factor, which (depending on the type and settings) for more or less severe loss of quality ensures. Ulead is not known for superior quality.

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von Daigoro:

"Markus73" wrote:
"Martin Dienert" wrote:
Mentos writes "ps: I've synonymous already tried different dvd player.". And a TV interlaced video should play back correctly.


That's right, yes (although we have the details of the settings do not know).


I would almost suspect the program will convert the films already at play in about grauslig de interlacetes and poorly encoded MPG2.

Make some of these 'one click to DVD' Programs sometimes.

The best of the DV Avi capturn tape and then convert.
(and if the program simply does not offer something, or simply WinDV VirtualDub download and play around in order).



Antwort von Steppenwolf22:

Hi, so, admitted that the program is really not the best. so you can stop as I said, mitn few clicks ne dvd create. I've already synonymous Pinnacle 8 and 11 tested, and already synonymous with Magix but which does not work. With Pinnacle's (only for dvd's) error in rendering. synonymous've already tried all. but no preference.

s.programm but that it is, I almost can not imagine. because I do the movies where I dv cassettes of the down hab, synonymous over the program had made.

Oh, and if I play s.pc the film, I still viiieeelll the quality deteriorates. s.tv and as I said, it is only bad when the camera moves when she stands still is a very geiles bild!

between USB and Firewire and I've found no difference. (So where I of the camera directly to the hdd stored hab. without cassette.)

desswegen I really do not know what's wrong is.

Ich hab mal synonymous with the Encorder settings in Ulead gekuckt, but since you can not recruit great. except for the quality: Very Good (60 min per DVD), Good (90 min per DVD), so that was the whole time aug "Good" asked. I habs now on "Very good" but not yet tried.



Antwort von Mentos:

there is no "edit" function?

sorry, but the commentary is drüber of me. (name forgotten) ;-)



Antwort von Markus:

"Mentos" wrote:
there is no "edit" function?

You are not a registered user, therefore you can not edit your posts.
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Sincerely,
by moderator



Antwort von Mentos:

Hi, I've now tried different programs, so you can WinDV with only videos of the camera pick, or vice versa.

with the program Virtual Dub can not convert the videos.

Now I've tried Scenalyzerlive 4.0. but I do not know how to get with the program converts.

So, I need a program with which I film of my camera in mpeg2 format on my pc can play post or to convert it into mpeg2. because one knows what?

if possible with a small manual (1.2 principles to program content.)

mfg



Antwort von Markus:

"Mentos" wrote:
... I need a program with which I film of my camera in mpeg2 format on my pc can play post or to convert it into mpeg2. because one knows what?

Must the MPEG2 conversion directly from the capturing done? If yes, is depending on the application (often dependent of the price and hardware support) with visible quality loss to be expected. - What is your goal?



Antwort von Daigoro:

"Mentos" wrote:
Hi, I've now tried different programs, so you can WinDV with only videos of the camera pick, or vice versa.

So, I need a program with which I film of my camera in mpeg2 format on my pc can play post or to convert it into mpeg2. because one knows what?

if possible with a small manual (1.2 principles to program content.)

mfg


With WinDV capturn (so you have the highest quality auf'm Calculator).
Then always synonymous with what cut or not, or simply halt the scenes, you do not need (if you're looking for scenes captured separately searched) omit.

All in Nero's DVD rueberziehen.
The DVD has the 'authoring' as a 'storyboard', where you can arrange individual scenes, transitions, pure, even rudimentary editing functions. Actually everything you need when it should go quickly.

Title drüber menu - created virtually autonomous after scenes.

Ne hour coffee, ready isses.

Quality is at 60 min / DVD from the original Camera s.Television connected virtually impossible to distinguish.

Perhaps there's a better DVD authoring tools, but Nero is for most writers it (newer version should not be - the OEM, light, wasauchimmer enough for me perfectly for home use), nice simple (about 10 clicks to complete DVD) and qualitatively ok (there's perhaps synonymous better encoder, but of the problems you described, I had never been with Nero).



Antwort von Mentos:

Hi,

So as I slowly more and more come to the realization that my program, the good quality "swallowed," I would go now pinnacle of his famous worried verision 11th I had the 8 times but that I had problems. and lo and behold, with the 11th everything wonderful that I can with the program record my movies, and antschließend to burn dvd. and the quality is synonymous super.

Now I have other problems ,...... for example, the Pinnacle DV only (ie, firewire recording) but my laptop only has usb. well, I can even be solved by me ne karte sale.

Thanks again for your help. I have now achieved what I wanted. (at least what the topic of this thread is concerned.)

mfg Mentos




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