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Sony HDR-FX1 oder VX 2100 für Aufnahme eines Theaterstückes ?

SonyHDR-FX1 or VX 2100 for recording of a play?



Frage von The_Bulldog:
Oktober 2006

Hi, I need to add s.Wochenende a theatrical production. It is a regular representation, ie there are spectators present. The auditorium is completely darkened. I'm filming with a camera (on tripod) in the last row and have the stage in mid-shot. The camera rental offers momenta HDR-FX1 and the VX to 2100th What do you think that is better suited for this purpose? Then the film must capture and burn to DVD - does it work with the HDR-FX1 is good or it has a higher data volume, because HDV? Lieber Gruss, and thank you!



Antwort von Markus:

"The_Bulldog" wrote:
[hdr-fx1 or vx 2100] What do you think that is better suited for this purpose?

You just build a DVD (- video?), So standard definition. Then a sufficient DV camcorder.

"The_Bulldog" wrote:
Then the film must capture and burn to DVD - does it work with the HDR-FX1 is good or it has a higher data volume, because HDV?

HDV has the same data rate as DV, namely 25 Mbit / s. DV can be due to the frame compression) (instead of image compression group as HDV editing much easier, but the FX1 can output via firewire synonymous one downconverted DV stream. That raises only the question of what sense this makes? - The VX2100 would be the better choice in this DV camcorder.

However, it takes a theatrical performance synonymous a good sound and you will not get the standing in the back row - at least not with the camcorder microphone. So I advise you to the professional version of the VX2100, namely, the PD170. If you borrow the camcorder anyway, you've got a choice. Take plenty synonymous XLR cable and one / two microphones with suitable tripod to do so. ;-)



Antwort von Lucky_Lucky:

Take the FX1!

The 16:9 format just fits better to probably rectangular stage.
However, you should try to get into your system with the anterior third of the auditorium space.
From there, the middle and you have the perfect angle to the stage.

Want to actually record the song with only a long shot?

Bye
Fan








Antwort von Markus:

But now I'm views on the decision of "The_Bulldog" curious ... I mean, after the two controversial opinions. ;-)

PS: The VX2100/PD170 can be attributed to 16:9 (anamorphic switch). Alternatively, you can use an anamorphic lens synonymous ... There is synonymous with rental.



Antwort von Lucky_Lucky:

When the internal switch you need to suffer a loss of resolution.
The anamorphic lens would be an alternative.

Pro VX2100 - very bright

Pro FX1 - true 16:9, HDV resolution, if desired

I own the FX1 and the VX2000 and would take a Bühnenaufzeichnug the former.

Bye
Fan



Antwort von Markus:

"Fan" wrote:
I own the FX1 and the VX2000 and would take a Bühnenaufzeichnug the former.

As you take on the sound? Far enough from the atmosphere or the camcorder? - Alternatively, the Z1 would be synonymous in question, so the more professional version of the FX1.



Antwort von Lucky_Lucky:

Optimal Microphones were on or immediately prior to the stage.
If the sound is running through a mixer, it could be there to record external and paste it into the post.
There are several options and as I said it depends on whether the actors with or without their own microphones work.

Bye
Fan



Antwort von Markus:

"Fan" wrote:
Optimal Microphones were on or immediately prior to the stage.

Exactly, "stage" was the keyword! - I had, all the while looking for an appropriate contribution. Here is the link (which I had wanted to post much earlier):





Antwort von Wildlifer:

Wow, that is, until s.Alle again, thanks! Is not able to respond until now, was traveling and had no Internet access. So the camera rental is currently offering only the two of ... The director asked me to shot because he wants the piece several times to look at certain scenes and actors positions may improve. The film serves more as an archive and a brief look at some theaters to give. Unfortunately I can not herumturnen front of the stage, synonymous if I would be happy ... ;)
The sound is certainly a problem, I had to use the internal Micro, but you are right, an external I will not get around. Is there a difference in quality of the internal mics?
@ Markus: I would like to make a DVD video, a downkonvertieren into dv-stream is very impractical. The PD170 was probably the best choice, but unfortunately they have not ...
@ Guest: "pro VX2100: very bright," which is in the dark theater space very good ..
Again, give the sound: its own microphones of the actors would be too expensive and it only brings out the concept ... With Sound does not know me so well, the external can be connected directly but synonymous s.The camera, right? Would not attract as much attention ie, laptops, micro front of the stage, etc. - that would disrupt the very idea ... The distributor is currently offering the following:

Sennheiser ME 80 directional micro -
Tonangeln

Then the directional microphone or?

Uh-oh, somehow I can not decide ... ;)

Think I'll take the VX2100 and an External Micro. The song pauses for a while and then even before the resumption of a dress rehearsal - this would be a better time for an elaborate video production with two cameras, wireless microphones, etc. ...

Lieber Gruss, and again thank you for your efforts!



Antwort von The_Bulldog:

Sorry forgot to sign ... 'm obviously The_Bulldog ... And again thanks for the link, which is very helpful!



Antwort von The_Bulldog:

And nochwas: Hire also offers a wide-angle converter - that would be just the right thing right?



Antwort von Markus:

An additional (good) schonmal directional microphone is at least better than the built-in (Stereo-/Atmo-) Microphone for a camcorder.

The ME80 (or its power adapter) mW has an XLR connector, synonymous So you need an XLR jack adapter (balanced - unbalanced wired>). Synonymous to you whom you can etch itself.

Whether you need at your site is a MF lens can be, only you know. That depends on the size of the stage and the distance from the camera. I needed to shoot so far no Any additional theater.

BTW: Wireless Microphones s.jedem single player are not necessary. A good stage miking s.der synonymous it does. ;-)








Antwort von The_Bulldog:

For miking s.der stage then I guess radio mics or? That with the soldering is too difficult, you can buy the XLR jack adapter synonymous?



Antwort von Markus:

"The_Bulldog" wrote:
For miking s.der stage then I guess radio mics or?

What is the advantage of wireless microphones promise you you? Why no XLR cable?

"The_Bulldog" wrote:
That with the soldering is too difficult, you can buy the XLR jack adapter synonymous?

Yes, the adapter there are synonymous ready to buy.



Antwort von The_Bulldog:

It was only with the wireless mics out of ignorance. So is my decision: VX2100 and Microphones with XLR cables on stage!
Thank you for your decision! :)



Antwort von Markus:

"The_Bulldog" wrote:
So is my decision: VX2100 and Microphones with XLR cables on stage!

* * kopfschüttel

No, because you have to keep well once again capture ... see above link "recording of a play!" And there, again the many links to the quote ...

Quote:
... why should s.einen consumer camcorder is no longer connected microphone cable?


BTW: If you have only a single ME80 where you want to put the s.der stage to collect sound-engineering synonymous with the actors who are not exactly in front of the directional microphone? - You need at least two of those also.



Antwort von The_Bulldog:

Ok, I read everything again in peace by ... I'm sorry, still working s.einem second time Project and am somewhat confused ...



Antwort von domain:

Mach's dir but not so difficult.
Stage Three of their shots, I have the Edirol R1, first time with built-in microphones in wave format in front of the stage and positioned in agreement with the artists and then the same configuration later tried once synonymous with Ruessel microphones glued to the stage floor and with 60 cm distance. Result: very good to my mind, down to the trampling on the stage floor!

However, it need not be R1, the synchronicity in the NLE you can now virtually even with any suitable mp3 player, etc. to reach very easily and if she is prepared, then it goes through Quartz control for virtually all devices synonymous with no time code for hours.
LG domain




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