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The King’s Speech - geschnitten mit Avid oder Final Cut?

The King's Speech - cut with Avid or Final Cut?



Newsmeldung von slashCAM:
Februar 2011

Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: The King's Speech - cut with Avid or Final Cut?




Antwort von Jott:

A feature film consists almost exclusively of hard cuts - and that creates really any NLE. To discuss which film with which product was cut - or even to advertise it - is profoundly ridiculous.



Antwort von wenzx:

Also an issue which I find very interesting especially since there are a few more times with someone actually Programs SpeedEdit of NewTek has worked? I would be interested if burning it with can hold the dogmatic A products with?





Antwort von emu:

"Jott" wrote:
A feature film consists almost exclusively of hard cuts - and that creates really any NLE. To discuss which film with which product was cut - or even to advertise it - is profoundly ridiculous.


Well, so the argument can be so but can not synonymous are: especially for large productions play so synonymous terms such as integration into the production cycle (particularly synonymous interaction with the Music / Sound department) and above all the media management is a great role and exactly it's for very different.

The type of Aperture is more probably of secondary importance, otherwise you could cut synonymous with Quicktime - it can synonymous hard cuts.



Antwort von Axel:

"Emu" wrote:
... especially for large productions play so synonymous terms such as integration into the production cycle (in particular the interaction synonymous with the music / sound department) and above all the media management is a great role and just that there's some big differences.


These differences are evaluated for quality? The whole accounting Page can still differ more than skin deep. Of course, an Avid editors to know how he must organize his projects, that is his job. And likewise with other systems. At the appearance of the finished film, that can not only affect if the person does a bad job.



Antwort von JossJoss5000:

Well, light works or not, the winners for best editing have been working with Final Cut Pro (plus a bissl Premiere and AfterFX).

But only because of hard cuts - this is an interesting video, as AfterFX was used for Conforming and how to "improve" is still behind the representational services can:

http://www.adobe.com/products/after effects / customers /

For more information and links available here, good reading:





Antwort von Valentino:

In principle, there should be no preference with which program I cut while the cutter, it's made of and can deliver a good result.

In the top advertising videos of Adobe is simply shown only that something is synonymous with holding AfterFX and Final Cut Pro, but despite the constant of Avid NLE is still the most widely used by professional editors.
The effects shown here, I have been making in the MC in a few minutes without which I would need AfterFX for it.
In Final Cut Pro editing software Avid is a long way behind in terms of such simple compositing. The sheer number of effects, and the title tool and the tracking function can be found in Final Cut Pro still does not.
Especially when a guy falls immediately whether with Final Cut Pro or another program has worked. MOV as a container format and the associated Gama problem we're only talking about actually not s.zur. And there is MXF is simply the better choice, I think there zBsden P2 Workflow: HXP171 Connect cut, and play without me only one video of have copied the P2 card or previously converted into a different container format needed.

Sometimes it is so completely synonymous natural features such as front and back the image with the arrow keys, which does not work for AfterFX for some reason.



Antwort von freezer:

"Valentino" wrote:
In Final Cut Pro editing software Avid is a long way behind in terms of such simple compositing. The sheer number of effects, and the title tool and the tracking function can be found in Final Cut Pro still does not.

What do you mean with easy compositing? Is it in Final Cut Pro.
Tracking with BorisFX. Titles with Motion. Super Templates to operate quickly and easily.
What does not fit in the credits? Final Cut Pro to fit but even the auto scroll speed, so no flicker ensteht.
"Valentino" wrote:
MOV as a container format and the associated Gama problem we're only talking about actually not s.zur.
The problem you only if you are not familiar with the workflow. However annoying it is true!
"Valentino" wrote:
And there is MXF is simply the better choice, I think there zBsden P2 workflow:
Agreement!
Sometimes it is so completely synonymous natural features such as
"Valentino" wrote:
Trick mode before and Back with the arrow keys, which does not work for AfterFX for some reason.
Go with Picture-In / Picture-down buttons, as the arrow keys are otherwise occupied.



Antwort von dustdancer:

@ Valentino:
I want to start any flame war, but maybe you should have only a wafer-synonymous of foreboding about the tools, of which one writes ...
Quote:
Sometimes it is so completely synonymous natural features such as front and back the image with the arrow keys, which does not work for AfterFX for some reason.

pgn ever with up / down tried? But first a little trash talk ...
Most errors are sitting in front of the computer time ...



Antwort von Valentino:

@ Freezer
Boris Effects not cost money again? When the MC are already included.
Final Cut Pro itself can not all, but containing the additional Programs of Final Cut Pro Studio, but why is this the way?
As I said, the MC provides all in one program.

@ Dustdancer
Talking with garbage that has more to do less, I'm used to it simply as MC Used with the arrow keys to jump in front and back picture.
This works fine with Final Cut Pro to believe even in Premiere are the keys so busy, why not AfterFX?
That is when the Avid keyboard can prove just as one is funny and can then take his own Benutzterprofil everywhere is just a wonderful thing that is missing one or the other editing software.



Antwort von NEEL:

Let 's not so bad for Final Cut. After all, there are a few movies, which are cut with it. This may be of Magix not maintain itself. Also sees a Mac and send out when necessary to make the cutter pretty synonymous.

Light Works the other hand seems to be a good addition in a professional environment to Avid to be (and vice versa). However, the entries in the vote Slashcam Lightworks forum yet confident. is probably more what the ever häufger occurring cross between editors and System Admins ...:)



Antwort von Axel:

"Neel" wrote:
Let 's not so bad for Final Cut. After all, there are a few movies, which are cut with it. This may be of Magix not maintain itself. Also sees a Mac and send out when necessary to make the cutter pretty synonymous.)


Such pseudo-superior Proverbs, where it was not an editing program, but the average award as a creative performance call types such as vfxheini on the plan that you have earned then synonymous. Childish obstinacy, as if about to you about agreeable and familiar keyboard layout says something about the professionalism.
And I do not give Oscars to what is, for example, the Camera for Oscar Inception? But here None need patronizing Final Cut Pro to spare because of this - and not AVID - brought the average Oscar.



Antwort von freezer:

@ Valentino

IN AE used the arrow keys to move in a plane XY. This requires 4 keys, ergo it is a logical function on the arrow keys, lay spread than on any other buttons.
The same function, the arrow keys is the way in Photoshop and AE as a sort of Photoshop for film, this assignment was quite consistent - the two share as synonymous many other shortcuts.

If it bothers you, you can change the key bindings to your liking.

However, the default assignment in AE is very complex - see Help -> Keyboard shortcuts.

You can show the way, synonymous in Premiere your keyboard as you want, save the settings and take.



Antwort von Mantas:

"Jott" wrote:
A feature film consists almost exclusively of hard cuts - and that creates really any NLE. To discuss which film with which product was cut - or even to advertise it - is profoundly ridiculous.


hm ne ne ne, a film is long, here comes s.ende many things together to force the program to its knees.



Antwort von NEEL:

"Axel" wrote:

Such pseudo-superior Proverbs, where it was not an editing program, but the average award as a creative performance call types such as vfxheini on the plan that you have earned then synonymous.


I admit I was bored ... Sorry for that :-)



Antwort von markus2h:

And that is no preference as that?



Antwort von soan:

"Valentino" wrote:

The effects shown here, I have been making in the MC in a few minutes without which I would need AfterFX for it.


I cut with Avid for years in the television sector and the limited options of the hate Avid Composer. The effects are complex, each with a bit more effects Pinnefitz / Videospurem needs to be rendered and for really good effects will not be around plug-ins.

All in all, the hard Avid editing software - you can achieve more synonymous only indirectly and with complicated tricks



Antwort von nicecam:

I found the post of NEEL quite appropriate. Thanks for the mention of MAGIX :-)




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