Infoseite // of the NV-DX1 NV-GS250 to hm, or at the HDR-HC1?



Frage von rowi:


Dear forum experts,
I now have movies for 9 years with the first 3-chip cam of Panasonic.

The Picture I am still very satisfied.
Especially in the field lowlight so far I have hardly seen better shots.
Also it is very robust and has an unusual design.

Unfortunately, however, lacks a true 16:9 function (only blinding beams) into the picture.
The Image Stabilization is not usable and it is synonymous for Alttagsbetrieb a bit unwieldy.

So's see if a lover of this is on ebay.

I know this is difficult to expect buying tips and synonymous've already read a lot.
Nevertheless, following some specific questions ...

It should therefore be the NV-GS250EG little or Sony's HDV.

For the Sonyspricht sure the new technology.
When I opted for the DX1 with former 3800DEM,
bought most of them still Hi8 and thought I was a freak.
Nevertheless, this investment has paid off.

But ...

1. Especially with the high quality with little light, I'm spoiled.
Is to be feared that disappointed me the Sonyhier?
(As you read, the wg. Missing ccd chips) not their strength

2. With my cam, I have only ever filmed.
For playing and dubbing on a PC I'm using a DHR-1000VC (Sony's DV recorder).
I think it is nonsense with an HDV cam filming in DV format,
But then it has done so synonymous with my "favorite Recorder", right?

3. For the PC-editing I have read and violent demands.
I currently Studio10plus cut with a 3800 +, with 1GB of RAM,
two 7200 boards (no SATA) and a GeForce6FX with 128 MB (not PCIe).
For normal DV footage is yet perfect but for HDV?

4. Is it advisable to do for the cut and be equal to that in HDV quality,
initially burn but only in "standard quality" on DVD?
Since the cut makes the greatest effort
But the thoughtful then it would cut material from the PC for later "HD-DVD back-burning" too.
Or what approach is best?

5. Then there remains the question of whether the Sonymir twice the price is worth?
But I have my answer in the next few days, perhaps even himself ...

Thanks for your help?
LG
ROWI

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello Rowi,

The question probably several thousand.

The 16 / 9 function of the GS 250 is not really synonymous. Ok it could be 4 ° (wide angle to be more synonymous 5, now I do not know exactly) in the head. But she still takes Pal (same resolution) and is synonymous to no 16 / 9 as the CCD HDV JVC GR PD 1st Half

It is important for many users, the additional cost for a purchase of an intensive using dense matrix algebra HDV Camera flutter into the house.

The inexpensive Programs allegedly HDV editing beherschen eg Pinnacle Studio 10 Plus are s.Abstürzen more than the work deals with HDV material.

Even the "intuitions" medium is expensive no preference whether quality of older CRT TVs or LCD, plasma, projector or Rückprofernseher if it is not already present.

All this can be seen in almost any video forum read article at the time.

Your good old man, I know too bad, they would very probably not be much worse than the GS 250 if ever.

As a player would probably almost everyone to purchase a 2nd HC 1 guess.
The HDV Recorder SonyHVR M 10 I was just enjoying the times, unfortunately, it is difficult to pay and for the rest of Schweineteuer.

Ad 1 Even a 3 CCD Panasonic GS is 75 and is of no Lowlightkönigin eg several models beaten 1 CCD (Sony)

LG
January

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Many questions to try, let's times.

And even in advance: a lot of info on these issues you find exactly the video meeting.

"Rowi" wrote:
1. Especially with the high quality with little light, I'm spoiled.
Is to be feared that disappointed me the Sonyhier?
(As you read, the wg. Missing ccd chips) not their strength


The people actually report that they are not with the lowlight properties of HC1 are dissatisfied. But this is certainly more fairly, the fact is that these are apparently somewhat weaker than some of the FX1. I would not count on there on subjective statements - search for a showroom, and play with the camcorder a bit by you watch the picture behavior in darker parts of a show room or media market. The what you just expect it, but you can judge None.

"Rowi" wrote:
2. With my cam, I have only ever filmed.
For playing and dubbing on a PC I'm using a DHR-1000VC (Sony's DV recorder).
I think it is nonsense with an HDV cam filming in DV format,
But then it has done so synonymous with my "favorite Recorder", right?


Well, you can not expect of a DV player HDV reproduction, which is unfortunately so.

"Rowi" wrote:
3. For the PC-editing I have read and violent demands.
I currently Studio10plus cut with a 3800 +, with 1GB of RAM,
two 7200 boards (no SATA) and a GeForce6FX with 128 MB (not PCIe).
For normal DV footage is yet perfect but for HDV?


Yes, the requirements s.den HDV editing are first times greater. But just for the HC1 find ways to make a proxy with Vegas cut - what the hardware requirements are reduced again. Since we have our own tools in the video meeting place of HC1 usern developed. Alternative or additional tools such as stop Gearshift.

http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=1750&boardid=43&styleid=6

http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=1370&boardid=43&styleid=6

If it is not to Vegas, which is possible, then the matter is quite good synonymous with Edius. Gladly Intermediate codecs are used - in the case of some of the Edius Canopus HQ codec. Thus can be synonymous to existing systems work reasonably well already. Even Vegas has such a codec of the Cineform. We can work synonymous with Adobe Premiere Pro with the Cineform Intermediate codec quite well, has reportedly Wiro often. There would be synonymous nor the new Ulead MSP8, working through proxy file. He has at least the import of the material occasionally still weaknesses.

"Rowi" wrote:
4. Is it advisable to do for the cut and be equal to that in HDV quality,
initially burn but only in "standard quality" on DVD?
Since the cut makes the greatest effort
But the thoughtful then it would cut material from the PC for later "HD-DVD back-burning" too.
Or what approach is best?


There are currently barely standalones, HD (V) Resolutionkönnen. These are expected in the first half of 2006. Synonymous but there are other solutions, such as shown here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/board.php?boardid=45

"Rowi" wrote:
5. Then there remains the question of whether the Sonymir twice the price is worth?
But I have my answer in the next few days, perhaps even himself ...


Old hands - as was Lothar Woerner, who has written numerous publications in the video area - of the heavy excited HC1. See for example here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=1661&boardid=42&styleid=6

And of course, synonymous several other discussions on the HC1 here:
http://videotreffpunkt.com/board.php?boardid=42

Have fun with the decision!

Space


Antwort von Gast:

The HC1 is of the light sensitivity is not bad (I own one). But s.The "Queen of the Night" (DX 1) she is not able to tap not far off.

Space


Antwort von rowi:

First thank you for your advice.

- To my old I read in the last few days.
It's amazing that an 8 years old device is still holding up the bar.
Possibly. I should keep it as a second device after all.

- Even now I read a lot for cutting.
With "Studio Plus v.10" probably belies the only HDV, or dominated the norm only in theory.
Switching to a different editing software is certainly the easiest challenge.

- But then look at the issue of cut HDV material
The camera used permanently as a player to "no solution"
Connect the PC to the living room and s.Plasma "synonymous not great"
So I'm waiting for times appropriate DVD Burners and player, "Anticipation is the ..."

The most costly problem, however,
my plasma I've been 2 years since its 1024x1024 and still had a peak.

Still, I probably will opt for the HC1.

I Zwischzeilich synonymous kept both units in my hands.
The GS250 wikt a bit like a toy against my old one.

The main argument, however, is that I filmed my material is now synonymous for years to
would like to see with joy. But when I created years ago today my Hi-8-video look, which unfortunately does not have as much fun.

LG

Space


Antwort von rowi:

and another question ...

Just see it now, the GS500 is one synonymous.
Sales start in Germany is in FEBRUARY.

[url] http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/videocamera/europe/nv-gs500/
which reads all very promising.

Besides, the manufacturer of advertising, has anyone read something independent about this?

LG

Space



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