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Vollbilder und Filmlook mit einer JVC GR-DX77e??? HELP!

Frames and film look with a JVC GR-DX77e?? HELP!



Frage von Unhuman05:
Juli 2005

Hello!

I have a JVC GR-DX77e MiniDV Camera and now wanted to turn a kind of "film". Say, put a script on film. Now I know that this consumer camcorder is not just the absolute 'Film Look have.

Directional microphones, boom, etc. I have been worried, as well as studio lights in the correct color temperature including tripods.

What does depth of field and how it is operated, I have become synonymous already discovered, just about everything uswusf White Balance, Aperture, theory and practice. No problem.

Now I'm stuck at the problem with the 24 frames. In the "FAQ" there is a hint that one can achieve when capturing or later in the editing program with similar interpolation effects. Are the movies look almost approaching "can.

Unfortunately, there is nothing more than appropriate for Programs, or how good or bad are. Therefore wanted to ask you, what experiences have you done with it. AND --

- If you can give me more tips on how to s.The film characteristic of the next big productions can still converge. (16:9, etc.) ...

'm really thankful for every tip! But primarily erstmal tips, with what programs you can conjure from the half-frames and frames how good / bad are exactly how it works, etc.

Also I'm looking for production yet t.bone microphones at an affordable price with good performance at a Tonangeln and wants to record a stereo microphone to the sounds of (a scene in the rain because I want to rotate and then later in the editing program in the rain in stereo drunterlegen has 3D sound), the bi-directional synonymous s.besten Microphone of t.bone - so if someone used, I would be very happy about a message! ;)

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

Sincerely,
Dimitrios P. White



Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

regarding frames / fields (progressive / interlaced) looking times in the article "25p or 24p '. If you want a progressive record, then do it in 25p. Thus Capture program has no problems.

The question is (after the film look so very very modern!) Is made again and again. Look for posts with the search with the keyword "film look".

PS: It's called



Antwort von Unhuman05:

have to thank me wrong number, I am aware that it is called depth of field.
Depth, however, is even in some books, but is wrong. Thanks for the hint. The search function I've used. But everywhere is so complicated states of appropriate programs and because I read pretty much synonymous in any way. It helps me very much when it states "you're gonna take with 50i on" - how should I teach this to my consumer camcorder for 500 ¬!? So yes, I should probably somehow reprocess the finished product ... but how? with which program?





Antwort von AMH:

Hello!

Actually you can with any better editing program to interpolate a single frame. All you need is the right plug-ins. I cut with FinalCut Pro and have me some time ago, a film look Pluginset to test angeschaft.

Schau doch mal fit at google which plugins to your editing program, or give us about it. Perhaps someone is something to suit one ;-)

Good luck
Alex



Antwort von Markus:

"Unhuman05" wrote:
It helps me very much when it states "you're gonna take with 50i on" - how should I teach this to my consumer camcorder for 500 ¬!?


50i is standard on every PAL camcorder. Unless otherwise noted, or / and no other host species (eg 25p) are selectable, then picks up a PAL camcorder always 50i.



Antwort von AMH:

I think he meant synonymous 25p .. has probably made a typing error ... ;-)

Gruss
Alex



Antwort von Markus:

"Unhuman05" wrote:
The search function I've used. But everywhere is so complicated states of appropriate programs and because I read very little synonymous ...


The explanations are so large because it is not sufficient to change only two or three things in order to obtain a film look. As heard much more.

Using the search function you will find very, very many posts in which these (or similar) question (s) have been answered already been asked (and). Here is a brief summary: The real you do not achieve film look with a DV camcorder, but uswith a 35mm film camera.

Software and plug-ins you can find these contributions as well, but only sporadically, as they constitute only a stopgap measure.



Antwort von Cutterfield:

Quote:
Here is a brief summary: The real you do not achieve film look with a DV camcorder, but uswith a 35mm film camera.


And there's no camcorder, which makes use it on a digital basis?
The digital SLR cameras have analog predecessors so synonymous already replaced - at least almost ...



Antwort von AMH:

"Cutter Field" wrote:

And there's no camcorder, which makes use it on a digital basis?
The digital SLR cameras have analog predecessors so synonymous already replaced - at least almost ...


Nene .. I see quite different ... There are in fact no one camcorder to replace 35mm film camera only halfway. -My opinion -

The digital technology is simple in the handling much simpler and more practical.



Antwort von chmee:

What is rarely mentioned, but it is one of the main problems:
The range of contrast. A movie camera or the film material
has a contrast ratio of about 14 panels, the current
Video cameras around 7-8 stops. Say: There where some footage
even a curtain with folds is thrown, you can see on computer hardware
nen only white pile. The same in the shadows, the Movie
material or carpet in the video's all black, without
Subtleties.

Nevertheless, there are cameras that can record progressive.
(XL1, DVX100, FX1, etc)
But a home video camera can be compared with film as with ner
Shooting medium format camera-phone quality to want.

Recommendation: "The Edukators watch" and
to understand that a movie is good through the site. If this
missing synonymous helps no film look.

mfg chmee



Antwort von AMH:

Right! Except for the fact that the FX1 can not absorb progressive.

Gruss
Alex



Antwort von chmee:

Sorry, Right, was 1080i. :)

mfg chmee



Antwort von Unhuman05:

"AMH" wrote:
Actually you can with any better editing program to interpolate a single frame. All you need is the right plug-ins. I cut with FinalCut Pro and have me some time ago, a film look Pluginset to test angeschaft.


I have Ulead Media Studio Pro 7.0 / Adobe Premiere Pro and Pinnacle Studio 9 Hollywood FX 5.0 +

if for any of these Programs is such a plugin, it would be very helpful if I could call someone with the name.

I do not guess that it's one for Pinnacle Studio 9, there, right?



Antwort von AMH:

Such mal in Google.

Or check times



Antwort von chmee:

cinelook - http://www.digieffects.com/frames/cinelook/cinelook.html
Magic Bullet Suite - http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html
filmfx - http://www.bigfx.com/

mfg chmee



Antwort von chmee:

Deinterlacing ins & Apps:
http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/
http://www.in-deep.co.uk/products_redgiant_magicbullet.htm

Here is an explanation with solutions:
http://www.100fps.com/

mfg chmee



Antwort von Unhuman05:

Na also, geht doch. In order to work on. But not with "I'm Mr. omniscient and improves small typo to make me laugh at the ignorance of newcomers who do not reach my level anyway - I do not know how these people have reached that time s.ihr knowledge. Aliens have probably transplanted into her brain, or is there a "professional videographers gene", which is directly inherited?

A forum ought to be there to give advice to newcomers synonymous.
Some probably do not know that an expert forum called expert forum, because there may only ask experts ...

And relating to "Use the search function yet" - Yes! Have I done! Only in almost every post I find the "Use the search function!" drin.
Instead of posting just once a Simple, SIMPLE link to. - Sowas is in my opinion incompetent.

... the people who still do not understand what I want to say, I put the STEP-BY-STEP instructions to his heart

"How to kill a forum through imkompetente advice."

Thank s.alle which is NOT s.besagte Instructions (ge) hold (have).

Good luck!
Unhuman05.



Antwort von Markus:

Dimitrios P. White, although you call yourself "inhuman" (= inhumane), but why You do not have to be irrelevant!

"Unhuman05" wrote:
And relating to "Use the search function yet" - Yes! Have I done! Only in almost every post I find the "Use the search function!" drin. Instead of posting just once a Simple, SIMPLE link to. - Sowas is in my opinion incompetent.


As someone who has advised you (as other synonymous) use the search function, I would add the following: I advise only to find when I know that the information is easy to find. The subject of "film look" is here now so corny that interested hardly a responder.

That you find yourself often has led to contributions, which refer in turn, the search feature, showing, as has often been asked how often the questioner and vorher selbst nachgeforscht haben. Ich hatte die Antwort (Links, Software, Plug-ins) synonymous nicht direkt vor mir liegen, sondern hätte selbst danach suchen müssen, genau wie Du. Und warum sollte nicht derjenige danach suchen, der die Information (kostenlos and sofort!) haben will? - then strictly 'you a little of synonymous! vorher selbst nachgeforscht haben. Ich hatte die Antwort (Links, Software, Plug-ins) synonymous nicht direkt vor mir liegen, sondern hätte selbst danach suchen müssen, genau wie Du. Und warum sollte nicht derjenige danach suchen, der die Information (kostenlos and sofort!) haben will? - Where is your task!

Regarding the interpretation of collected responses (from the "Wie man Fragen richtig stellt"directive): "Such a response implies that (s.The required information is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you own them you are looking for, instead you comfortable einlöffeln to leave. "

"Wie man Fragen richtig stellt"... I do not know how those people at that time have come s.ihr knowledge. Aliens have probably transplanted into her brain, or is there a "professional videographers gene", which is directly inherited?
"Wie man Fragen richtig stellt"

The answer to this question is rather banal (synonymous if you would not know it actually): Through years of collecting-and decades of theoretical knowledge and practical experience. The alien transplant as synonymous the professional videographers gene as the silver bullet to the professional (picture -) film, unfortunately I have not yet met. But who knows what will happen in the future yet? Until then, it will continue once his hard work to acquire the necessary basics. (PS: 15 years ago there was virtually no Internet forums where you could ask for. How have the videographer then helped?)

"Wie man Fragen richtig stellt"... the people who still do not understand what I want to say, I put the STEP-BY-STEP instructions to his heart: "How to kill a forum through imkompetente advice."
"Wie man Fragen richtig stellt"

A forum does not kill you with helpful hints! A Forum kill you by the way, how questioner and respondent to behave. To every reader can form an opinion even if he reads the posts. And it will all have to know whom he helps in the future. So do not be surprised by such actions, falls du keine Antwort (mehr) bekommst.

"Unhuman05" wrote:
falls du keine Antwort (mehr) bekommst.

Na also, geht doch. In order to work on. But not with "I'm Mr. omniscient and improves small typo to make me laugh at the ignorance of newcomers, which anyway can not reach my level"
falls du keine Antwort (mehr) bekommst.



At what point has someone made fun of you? - With your last post You ask publicly display, that you feel wronged you and do the same responder mies that have helped you for free and fast (if synonymous eingelöffelt) not exactly according to your taste "everything"? Then I have only one piece of advice for you: You should now at least



Antwort von AMH:

Excuse me?

"AMH" wrote:


... schau mal hier vorbei...
Gruss
Alex


"chmee" wrote:
cinelook - http://www.digieffects.com/frames/cinelook/cinelook.html
Magic Bullet Suite - http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html
filmfx - http://www.bigfx.com/

mfg chmee


"chmee" wrote:
Deinterlacing ins & Apps:
http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/
http://www.in-deep.co.uk/products_redgiant_magicbullet.htm

Here is an explanation with solutions:
http://www.100fps.com/

mfg chmee


We've tried for you links, and even that is now all the thanks? Mark is absolutely right. We dier told where you can find plug-ins. We have explained to you, such as with the progressive and Interlacedscan work.
Then, if a plugin does not work, here are synonymous None Of over to your home and help with the installation. What do you expect of free advice?
If you have not noticed it: We are not synonymous film school and you get no degree, if you are active here for some time!

Instead rumzumaulen always synonymous stupid you could be grateful for views. That is, if someone is not ready for you "na also, geht doch" reply but perhaps something to be thankful.

Alex

PS: There is indeed a film maker gene. It's called talent! You either hats or hats can not.



Antwort von Unhuman05:

Hello,

I believe there exists a small misunderstanding. Because really, I mean not at you. I was surprised, the one here of people but helped. The complaint concerned not at this discussion on changing:). And thanking you, I have finally synonymous:

"Thank s.alle which is NOT s.besagte Instructions (ge) hold (have)."

it stands in my post, so you really meant you were.

With the other dealing with the subject in other forums from other users was meant.

So once again make it clear:
THANKS FOR THE GREAT TIPS! THE TIME HAS FINALLY HELPED!

Sincerely,
Dimitrios P. White



Antwort von Markus:

Uuuuups, it's gone really stupid! And I had a beautiful plea sooo! ... Okay, forget! Next time will do better. ;-)

Misunderstandings are not uncommon when you pass each other so clearly writes. Look here:



Antwort von Unhuman05:

"Markus" wrote:
Dimitrios P. White, although you call yourself "inhuman" (= inhumane), but why You do not have to be irrelevant!


PS.: Inhuman means in English "inhumane". The form is "inhumane" and not at it is unique:) So - now I could improve what synonymous times, now I feel myself better.

And concerning your "Pleadings": print it out to you, cream him and hang it s.The wall if you start it so good didst;) or Mach: a film of it. For example: "the result of a misunderstanding" * g *

is just fun ...

MfG,
Dimitrios P. White



Antwort von Markus:

Sorry ... inhuman ;-)




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