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HD Aufnahmen mit 60 fields - welches Schnittprogramm?

HD images with 60 fields - what editing program?



Frage von StevieS:
Juli 2009

Hello,

Today was my Sanyo Xacti HD Cam HD will 2000th Since I did not have much time, I have taken just one of the highest resolutions. Today, the same evening, had to add something (; ago) football game. Unfortunately, the camera with 60 fields (, not fps or is there no difference) per second recorded. Have tried a variety of cutting programs and for many the following problem occurs when editing play /:

- The sound runs normally but the picture in slow motion (; Picture is half the speed of sound)

- The sound is choppy and the Picture synonymous running in slow motion

- The sound is choppy and the picture is running normally

- The sound runs normally but the picture is black ....


The files are stored as MPEG-4 in front with a resolution of h.264
1920 x 1080 pixels, and as already mentioned, with 60 fields per second

There may be a cutting program that fields 60 can act? Most have to edit the settings just the way video with a maximum of 30 frames. Please HELP and Thanks!

So far flunked the test are:


- Windows Movie Maker (; does not recognize file format)

- Normal Adobe Premiere Pro CS 3 (; sound, no way to adjust picture right)

- Adobe Premiere Elements 4.0 (; crash when abgepielt be imported media)

- CyberLink PowerDirector

- Magix Video Deluxe 2008 plus (; videos Detects while, the output will be done in very poor quality)

- AVID Liquid 7 (; not recognize file types)

- Vegas Studio Platinum 9.0b (; Crash)



Antwort von Axel:

Your problem is not the 60 fields. A field is one field over a frame. It is therefore very likely 30fps, but as "30i," says the same thing as "60i". These settings will be available in the NLE.

Your problem is the codec. H.264 is too compressed to be smooth cut on standard computers to be able to. As the remedial look like? Please wait, other answers from, but I fear you will not be able to avoid being turned into a different codec.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

The Sanyo does actually draw 60 (; 59.94) frames at 29.97 frames, and not!
That the big problem lies with the post, because so far there are only templates for 1080i 50/60 Fields Farm and not for 1080p 50/60 frames at all possible programs.

A conversion to 1080i looks creepy, just as under 720p.
Thus, says First of wait and see which provider will offer updates for Sanyo.

"Sony Vegas Platinum MVS9" can nevertheless easy to read format.





Antwort von StevieS:

Times quite stupid asking, Why should, or can you even start with 60 frames? Is that again an increase in quality or simply unnecessary frills. The human eye is indeed creating just 21 frames per second ... Clearly for slow motion or something that's a great Funtkion determined, but otherwise?

Looks as if I had no choice but durchzuprobieren remains some test versions:

So far flunked the test are:

- Windows Movie Maker (; does not recognize file format)

- Normal Adobe Premiere Pro CS 3 (; sound, no way to adjust picture right)

- Adobe Premiere Elements 4.0 (; crash when abgepielt be imported media)

- CyberLink PowerDirector

- Magix Video Deluxe 2008 plus (; videos Detects while, the output will be done in very poor quality)

- AVID Liquid 7 (; not recognize file types)

- Vegas Studio Platinum 9.0b (; Crash)



Antwort von RickyMartini:

With 60 fps you will reach a much better temporal resolution, which is noticeable especially in fast objects and pans. Nor can create still images in better quality.

The human eye is significantly more than 21 frames per second exercise. ;)



Antwort von Axel:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
The human eye is significantly more than 21 frames per second exercise. ;)

Aha. Checkup time at the X-Men authority to your current super-human status to? Many Digiknippsen still make 10 fps video, 12 frames per second was the standard for Web films still not too old in the old days, when 12 fps is the phsysiologische border, receiving any rate, our photoreceptor cells have not been the last pulse recovered, ie if you are not the missing link between man and cat merge impressions. Should you have the Eindrck to exercise more than 21 images or as individual images, you are unfortunate, because unfortunately you can not watch your movie, unless this is one of Sanyo.

What you probably mean is the minimum duration of a light stimulus. The lies I believe in 1/500tel second. But this says nothing about the frequency. Again, another thing is the perception of a flickering (and then of course in movies) or a jerk. For a sincere picture as realistically as possible a higher frequency is better. It is not necessary, as if realism were the goal, first, (still some other parameters, resolution, dimensionality, response of the other senses) in the equation, and secondly, the lack of "real existing" Interactivity: The audience is filled with his own perception of the gaps.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

The X-Men Authority believe me, unfortunately, not synonymous! :-----(;

I've probably put a bit inaccurate - sorry! ;)
So I would say that the impression of a smooth playback synonymous with more than 21 frames / s is possible.

For computer games is often a minimum frame rate of 60fps necessary so that the movements appear to judder. But this is very different depending on the game. If we (in a game the current frame rate, eg. With FRAPS) show, you can even bring experience in determining when a game appears to liquid - depending on the system performance.

Of course, no one can perceive 60 frames / s discreetly.



Antwort von StevieS:

Do not want to be rude, but still someone has tips what software terms? The HD Cam was, incidentally, and have a birthday today (Happy birthday, 24.): D



Antwort von RickyMartini:

Happy Birthday! :)

Probably the only remains the record with a maximum of 30 full frames / s, if a post is sattfinden. Simply drop tests the various shooting modes on the processing options out.

http://www.sanyo.de/products/digital_Imaging/digital_movie/fullHD/product_detail.asp?lg=D&PID=21&product=Xacti% 20HD2000 & n1 = 1

1280x720p30 should be no problem.



Antwort von StevieS:

So when I try to select the Vegas Movie Studio Pro 9.0b the files the program crashes, unfortunately. Seems synonymous with this program not to work.

S.verzweifeln'm slow because I necessarily need the pictures for my video portal http://www.Borussen.tv



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

To go with Pinnacle Studio 12, it would have.



Antwort von StevieS:

"Bruno Peter" wrote:
To go with Pinnacle Studio 12, it would have.


Or would it work? The previous recommendations are all that is not working. Meanwhile synonymous AVID Liquid 7 tested. This already fails miserably during import by declaring that he (the file format, can not read MPEG-4).



Antwort von RickyMartini:

Quote:
Decide for yourself so only for a camera format, if the entire treatment process ... have cleared up to the monitor!

[digital television, dr.-ing. w. curious]

There lies buried the dog with you! The recordings are made - but unfortunately with the wrong settings. Useful clips you will not present it can make.

"Sony Vegas Movie Studio 9 Platinum" can indeed read the clips export - no preference in what format - but provides gruesome results. There is no way to spend nunmal to 60p.



Antwort von shipoffools:

No idea whether it works with Edius Neo, but it may be worth a try.
AVCHD files have since although associated with the "AVCHD Converter" first in Canopus HQ files are converted, but that can operate smoothly and close (without loss of quality, at least in popular AVCHD format).
Templates that could possibly fit ":
Canopus HQ 1920x1080/59.94i
Canopus HQ 720/59.94p
Canopus HQ 720/23.98p over 59.94p

Simply download the trial version at times Canopus GV, maybe it works so ...
... unless someone here can say from personal experience straight away that it does not work.

Greeting
shipoffools



Antwort von RickyMartini:

A test with the Canopus converter shows that the MP4 files of Sanyo can not be processed.



Antwort von shipoffools:

Okay - that's' ne clear statement!

o)



Antwort von StevieS:

Good times then I am asking for the safe if I Modi which receive the next time I should take:

- Full-HR 1920x1080 60fps HR <--- evil
- Full-HD 1920x1080 60fields
- Full-SHQ 1920x1080 30fps SHQ
- HD-SHQ 1280x720 30fps SHQ

And what editing program you can recommend (;) cutting, post-production. Price played only once does not matter.

Gruß Stevie



Antwort von StevieS:

If someone else is on the road here in the forum, which also has the Sanyo Xacti HD 2000: With the Pinnacle Studio is really! Thank God that my videos are saved: D



Antwort von RickyMartini:

Congratulations to solve the problem!
Let us know if you've uploaded the video!:)



Antwort von StevieS:

There's the thing:

http://www.borussen.tv/mediadetails.php?key=823610402902eb087e78&title=Testspiel+vom+08.+July Offenburger% 3A + + FP + - + + Borussia Dortmund + (, HD)

Yes, I know a little blurry sometimes ;-)



Antwort von RickyMartini:

Without Tripod wobbler are absolutely unavoidable! ;)
The quality is really to be proud - I am very surprised. :)



Antwort von StevieS:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
Without Tripod SIDN wobbler absolutely unavoidable! ;)
The quality is really to be proud - I am very surprised. :)


Well that should not really be surprised, after Stiftung Warentest it currently provides the best picture. The sound I have with the external Microphone Sennheiser MKE made 400th

For the recording, I could theoretically take Tripod, but in Dortmund is the case then explain something schwieig the folders to be ;-)




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