Infoseite // Seeking suitable DV camcorder for me (500 ¬ ± 100 ¬)



Frage von Samsonnight:


Hello!

I have in the near future zuzulegen before me a camcorder. I want to shoot with the camcorder, no big movie or image qualities are better than the original. I want to just use it for private purposes only. In my spare time, both inside as synonymous outside shooting, both by day and by night synonymous.
I know that there are different storage medium. But since I have no desire to have to play all 20 minutes, the material back on any calculator, because the storage media is full, I was thinking s.eine drive variant.

As for me is still unsure of this CCD. Once I read that is quite sufficient for private purposes CCD1. Elsewhere, however, states that CCD3 is compulsory. What's wrong now for my purposes, the camera use?

THANK times already.

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Antwort von Samsonnight:

What have I forgotten is that the whole should be as cost around ¬ 500. plus minus 100 ¬

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Antwort von jens:

Hi Samson,
forget HDDs. MiniDV is the first choice. For everything else you often get problems if the (high) compression / in terms of video editing.

Next time you read it Acers

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

I have your question moved to the views camcorder section. For there are synonymous all the other search your camcorder to 500 ¬ "questions. ;-)

If answers are not synonymous with the local A camcorder for you here? What have you discovered with regard to hard drive camcorder - especially as regards the processing of the recordings?

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Antwort von Samsonnight:

"Markus" wrote: What have you discovered with regard to hard drive camcorder - especially as regards the processing of the recordings?

I actually only) film (perhaps not so successful cases immediately delete it and burn it Looking and /. Will also reprocess any great things.

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Antwort von Acer:

Hallo erstmal,

book now I've taken the trouble to write to me, it was logged by the browser we can see that I have now posted in front of me ;-)

Well, nonetheless, I just what to write:::

first of all: time use the search function and post Festplattevs MiniDV ...;.)

Cam with a harddrive ???!!! No, thanks! The quality is poor and the capturing to the PC is surely net so tragic, or would it?

MiniDV is the "trendy option" when it comes to storage medium.
¬ How many do you want to spend?

Generally, 3CCD (Charge Coupled Device) "better" (if we take as general as possible) is expressed as 1CCD camcorder.

If you only films in their spare time, I can recommend the SonyDCR-HC17 or 39th They do net cost as much as other cams, but they always deliver good images. Look on the respective homepages for or here in the search for DCR-HC17 or 39th

Philip

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Antwort von prem:

"Acer" wrote: Hallo erstmal,

book now I've taken the trouble to write to me, it was logged by the browser we can see that I have now posted in front of me ;-)



THANK YOU :-)

"Acer" wrote:
Cam with a harddrive ???!!! No, thanks! The quality is poor and the capturing to the PC is surely net so tragic, or would it?


Pleasure, on vacation or wherever synonymous always has been, unfortunately, not the PC to the dub. Therefore, I want to be as long as possible regardless of a PC. What I noticed so far only for hard disks camcorders.

"Acer" wrote:
MiniDV is the "trendy option" when it comes to storage medium.
¬ How many do you want to spend?


¬ 500 + / -100 ¬

What could I imagine is a camcorder with mini DVD's. Because they're not too expensive compared to memory cards, etc..

How much actually fits up in such a MiniDVD when I capture in a normal PAL resolution (768 * 576)? Perhaps I allow myself to be still advise of a hard camcorder, although I have not found any real reason to.

Had the times considered here: http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a169279.html

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Antwort von jens:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Pleasure, on vacation or wherever synonymous always has been, unfortunately, not the PC to the dub. Therefore, I want to be as long as possible regardless of a PC. What I noticed so far only for hard disks camcorders.


What 's it is more independent than MiniDV tapes??
Go buy a stock. Should they then dochmal all be full, you can take everywhere (buy in any country) new.
If the hdd is full of ...

Seeking to hdd and MiniDVD: and think ... it's not so hard. As long as you are still seriously consider if you show too little initiative is filming ... then maybe ...;-) synonymous nothing for you

Jens

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Antwort von Mave:

"jens" wrote: "Anonymous" wrote:
Pleasure, on vacation or wherever synonymous always has been, unfortunately, not the PC to the dub. Therefore, I want to be as long as possible regardless of a PC. What I noticed so far only for hard disks camcorders.


What 's it is more independent than MiniDV tapes??
Go buy a stock. Should they then dochmal all be full, you can take everywhere (buy in any country) new.
If the hdd is full of ...

Seeking to hdd and MiniDVD: and think ... it's not so hard. As long as you are still seriously consider if you show too little initiative is filming ... then maybe ...;-) synonymous nothing for you

Jens


Does that mean now that Samsonnight allowed to buy and no camera, just because it does not involve the variant of MiniDV in the first election with?
Maybe he just want the whole video is not always archived on a tape but on DVD. And with a MiniDV which is archived on a DVD but not exactly user friendly. dub only on Calculator and then when we finished after an hour (so much so fits on ONE MiniDV), then burn everything again. For one or the other simply too cumbersome.

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Antwort von VolkerS:

Hello Samsonnight,

I think you should contact s.Seppl0815 times, you know how gorgeous you sure :-)

http://forum.slashcam.de/minidv-minidvd-vp137595.html?sid=f0111e4da2d4551bf0eba9bd9ab7fb25 # 137,595

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Antwort von Acer:

@ jens: 100% agreement

@ Volker: maybe

@ samsonnight:

you will want to edit them later, which really makes horny FUN!
Stay with MiniDV because: the picture quality is well worth gecapturet in 1:1 time being.

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Antwort von jens:

"Mave" wrote:
Does that mean now that Samsonnight allowed to buy and no camera, just because it does not involve the variant of MiniDV in the first election with?
Maybe he just want the whole video is not always archived on a tape but on DVD. And with a MiniDV which is archived on a DVD but not exactly user friendly. dub only on Calculator and then when we finished after an hour (so much so fits on ONE MiniDV), then burn everything again. For one or the other simply too cumbersome.


Hi Mavs,
This is of course nonsense.
The DVD is a rather poor medium for archiving. The MiniDV tape is suitable, however, much better (a Dvin s.der Camera makes itself as well, of course, to the edited video back to tape's) play.

Otherwise, I now have no desire to basics for the umpteenth repeat times. Long live the forum search (video editing on HDD / MiniDVD-mpegs, durability of DVDs, undundund)!

Samsonnight wanted a tip, we all want to protect him from possible problems. I'm concerned, he can buy what he wants, even with the thing I need / outcome luckily not work ;-)

Greetings s.alle,
Jens

edit:
I 's the way, find funny is that everyone always say when hdd-/flash- or DVD camcorders entfiehle transferring the video on the calculator. Sure 's are some time savings. The process but not deleted. bit `s what you have been (still having trouble making the cut in with some. mod files apart ;-)

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi All,

to the untrained MiniDV slashCAM the euphoria of the above posts will certainly contribute strange. But anyone who views the (small!) And trouble of typing the word "DVD camcorder" in the search function, which will recognize very quickly that advertising can and reality are very far apart. ;-)

My voice is therefore synonymous MiniDV.

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Antwort von Acer:

Yupps, just my opinion

* edit *

Cla, in your opinion

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Antwort von mario72:

"Markus" wrote: Hi All,

to the untrained MiniDV slashCAM the euphoria of the above posts will certainly contribute strange. But anyone who views the (small!) And trouble of typing the word "DVD camcorder" in the search function, which will recognize very quickly that advertising can and reality are very far apart. ;-)

My voice is therefore synonymous MiniDV.


I accept fully and completely. Therefore, please let the Speichermdeium times before the outside, and times please tell me whether the properties of here, is this camera for my needs OK.
http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a169279.html

THANK YOU :-)

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Antwort von jens:

The storage medium can not be sidelined as long as is to its inclusion in MPEG2 (it followed a loss in image quality / construction).

Comparison with a miniDV device, which brings the same data, the less well-hdd device.

Currently we could win here in the forum the impression that the people want is not at can help you (and all the camcorder between 500-700 ¬).

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Antwort von Samsonnight:

"jens" wrote: The storage medium can not be sidelined as long as is to its inclusion in MPEG2 (it followed a loss in image quality / construction).

Comparison with a miniDV device, which brings the same data, the less well-hdd device.

Currently we could win here in the forum the impression that the people want is not at can help you (and all the camcorder between 500-700 ¬).


I know at last that should be of better quality compared to MiniDV DVD or HDD (but not like B & W 40 years ago today, and HDTV). I can live with these restrictions. I just want to know if this camcorder is fine.
That would be as if I were you, questions whether the Golf 5 is good, and you would constantly tell me that I should buy me nen Mercedes, because that is better. That's better, I know, but I do not need tapes, which I dub again in order to get them on DVD. That's nothing for me. But each his own. I have these claims and you have others. Me many DVD's. Tape die out sooner or later anyway soon.
I expressed ideas, and wanted only MY ideas for a suitable product. That there are better and different technique to me is clear. But I specifically asked about this technique.

Thanks anyway. Even if None of my wish to go and wants, sometimes I can not change synonymous.

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Antwort von Jan:

"Samsonnight" wrote: That would be as if I were you, questions whether the Golf 5 is good, and you would constantly tell me that I should buy me nen Mercedes, because that is better. .

Yes, unfortunately, is more favorable in this case, the Mercedes, so there is a clear vote for Mini DV (Mercedes).

Ok time constructively, the JVC MG 60 is already much better than the entry-MG 20 / 30, which were reputed of several user / VideoMag's (eg VideoaktivDigital) slightly sluggish, fuzzy, jerky films s.and to frame errors, etc.

For normal people, the MG 60 is already ok, but who is demanding s.The could cause the problems noted above, well, I think of about 10 MW sold 20is no need to withdraw. VAD had been synonymous of the MG 60 a much better test than the MG 20 / 30 beginners.

I remember very dissatisfied s.2 Slashcam a few months ago with MG 60 & 70 - but they are synonymous in this demanding camp ...

Of course there synonymous benefits of the HD group, direct scene access, individually erasable films in between synonymous, no band sounds that are about 60 minutes to 12 minutes on a PC - a simple software delivers even with JVC. The 4.5-hour in best quality of MG 60 be enough to most normalos.

Yes, the 8 / 9 Mbit / sec of the MG 60 extend to us so synonymous watch movies in a DVD - have not synonymous greater data rate. If I think a war of religion - just like 1 vs. 3 CCD and CCD optical vs. digital stabilizer stabilizer

The wait for the SonySR 90 could be of importance - you can still trust s.Meisten MiniDv quality thanks to Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T *, RGB filter, surround sound and super-slow motion, but 1000 ¬ is synonymous in the Internet, they cost ....

Who I read your post's so (claims and wishes), take the MG 60, in your case, not a bad choice. (This is like all stand on the gartenschlanke blonde Heidi Klum and you tend to somewhat plump brunette Christine Neubauer - is as synonymous, and well, the camera does not have to please the public, but to you)

LG
January

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Antwort von Acer:

"Jan" wrote:
[before or gaaannnzz many threads, with challenging the hdd camcorder choice] and then:

[...] It's like all stand on the gartenschlanke blonde Heidi Klum and you tend to somewhat plump brunette Christine Neubauer - is as synonymous, and well, the camera does not have to please the public, but to you) [...]


This is the perfect example of the conformity of our modern society. Individualists only be corrected before we accept their opinion. As long as you like the one that you like (see quote), all is well. (MiniDV = Heidi Klum, HDD = Christine Neubauer)

Of course one can not deny that the HDD is better than MiniDV, but I wanted to get rid of. It applies not only to members of Slashcam forum and should not be regarded as an insult.
I hereby dissociate myself of the claim that they have given me of an insult.

;.)

Everything is good, and Ciao,

Philip

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How do I do this + / - signs in your headline: "Seeking suitable camcorder for me (500 + over ¬ - 100 ¬)??

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Antwort von slysee:

I do not know

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Antwort von Markus:

"Philip" Acer "" wrote: How do I do this + / - signs in your headline: "Seeking suitable camcorder for me (500 + over ¬ - 100 ¬)??
I did that to facilitate slashCAM visitors to search for similar camcorder-buying recommendations. The sign ± you can either by entering the ASCII codes to create (press ALT, type 0177 on the numeric keypad) to let go of the ALT or Windows'sche (Start> All Programs> accessories> System Tools>) character table.

So you get the character synonymous for the diameter, or a nicer Ø × between two figures (720 × 576). ;-)

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Antwort von Acer:

± aha

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