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Die Top-6 Anfänger-Fehler beim Videofilmen

The top-6 Beginners error when video films



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September 2006

The Top-6 Beginners error when video tapes of heidi - 25 Sep 2006 11:51:00
> Who wants to use the newly purchased video camera not only as a memory aid, but would like to demonstrate their video recordings sometimes synonymous someone who is faced initially quite a challenge. Although all camera models are now equipped with automatic transmission, but, unfortunately, synonymous tempted to just draufzuhalten. For the camera, which automatically synonymous looking photo on the right and the appropriate Full Resolution Sample, which can be delayed. Until then, no matter how many first work will appear confused and confusing, and often end up not want to be inedible.
Must it be so? We do not find, and present here a small list of toxic, the top-6 of the video rookie mistakes.




Antwort von domain:

For starters, you can still get a lot easier to synonymous to a common denominator:

Films like you are photographing, but the shutter button pressed for at least 7 seconds long.

LG domain



Antwort von Info2000cbd:

Anscheinden is not a new Introduction, a more Slashcam. Here it is really worth it almost impossible reinzuschnuppern.





Antwort von Info2000cbd:

.. ich find's great! :)



Antwort von Jan:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Anscheinden is not a new Introduction, a more Slashcam. Here it is really worth it almost impossible reinzuschnuppern.


Yes then stay in your Forum and we do not go up the wall - I hope you understand me correctly - bad luck if you're in a forum where no user is online and in Which None are so interested in law.

So now being forced off time, this constant grumbling and oddly only of our dear guests, I believe that time would have to be done.

I laugh at me almost every day, dead, like all my posts will be examined for errors, and what little is found, for example this week was subordinate to contribute, among other things with search rausgekramt me 2 months back to something wrong with /.

What you do not know, I'm at about 6 forums online, and believe me the quality of the statements there is no better in the community, up to 2-3 forums, well below the level of Slashcam. Where there is always the wiedergleichen discus ions with any new information, just weitergeblabbert forum to forum Example of 2 / 3 "CCD and 25 P, and on consumer issues are often made false statements (Microphone / converter exactly) for the Sought After Model, etc.

VG
Jan



Antwort von randoni:

not get too excited, it's only the internet.

;)



Antwort von prem:

I find the text synonymous OK.

Nevermind. Weiter So!

Jan: There are many critics, could do better but only a few! Quite frankly, most do not even begin to do something.

Right now they want to read that the RED has been found in Germany.
Or that SonyAvid purchases, or Premiere is broke, or or or.

mfg chmee



Antwort von VolkerS:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Anscheinden is not a new Introduction, a more Slashcam. Here it is really worth it almost impossible reinzuschnuppern.


As Jan has already said, it forces you hereinzusehen no one here.
There are already enough synonymous "guests" who only want to find fault and to be served with the necessary information ".
Meaning and purpose of forums, it is usually know EXCHANGED.



Antwort von Jan:

Yes, the Talkshow with guest access, we had already. Is it always annoying 5 (I think there are not more) in some way to banish?

In the forum where I'm the moderator, I can see the IP, and to act whenever the same permanently to express negative. Most guests bring Irgedwann nervts new addresses / Acounts and having to give up.

Everyone has somewhere in need of upgrading video - I synonymous, probably Slashcam was so much praise of users and the press, which is expected to us the perfect answer to every question and min in the 5th

Man my nerves - the Trolldiskution

VG
Jan



Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote:
... the Trolldiskution ...

I suppose one thought leap between "Troll Talk" and "execution". ;-)



Antwort von CorpoRasion:

I want to thank, in any case for all items here at slashcam!
Since a lot of effort and work inside it, and most consumi something just because precisely fits - but even that is put on its feet because it rarely ;-)
I have an awful lot to know about codecs, cut, set up lighting and sound, etc., and try to pass synonymous again.
Synonymous, I think the mix between "entry-info" and Professional Tips and tricks very successful.
I must say I've been VideoX of time with this and it is one of 4 links I visit every day, and this is as a professional Netwerk / firewall but schonmal or what??

Have fun and continue to cooperate synonymous again to all here! So, not the eternal nagger! - Next so - you can depend on!

Christian Langer
Canon XL-1, pending Fx-7



Antwort von filmer:

Yes yes, everything that is mentioned here as an error is correct and should be respected. Only hints of this most simply be discarded. Even relatively benefit duplicated working videographers discard these rules. I get always said, "You're just stopped years ago, today are very different films". Verkandete, under-or overexposed images, blurred and blurred everything should be apparently so. If it then still someone says that this is wrong, it is finished it mercilessly.

Good filmmakers are now but rarely stop!



Antwort von steveb:

Many times there are those who view this forum as synonymous to synonymous with gratuitous consumption good and download of MP3s, Shooting and "mild bleat software" synonymous nor that they are not palatable of "Mommy" is pushed into the neck ... you look their own "efforts" of the post questions, even as a justification for that answer a need and someone that all active respondents, regard it as a challenge to any and all respond as quickly as possible.

We should ensure that the quality of Slashcamforums not be pulled down by these "consumer vultures' and never be tired, they say to synonymous ....

Thanks Jan!



Antwort von Dj Dino:

Find a great article.

Expansion Proposal:

7: Thou shalt only sober film
It is advisable to visit the bar at parties and events until after the turn to ... otherwise the other points are well
hardly observed, especially with regard blur "" :-)



Antwort von VolkerS:

"Dj Dino" wrote:
Find a great article.

Expansion Proposal:

7: Thou shalt only sober film
It is advisable to visit the bar at parties and events until after the turn to ... otherwise the other points are well
hardly observed, especially with regard blur "" :-)


Can not say that in general,

I know some people that only with "slight refueling tremble no more." ;-)



Antwort von oliver II:

"Volker" wrote:
I know some people that only with "slight refueling tremble no more." ;-)


This is called Fluidgedämpft!



Antwort von andi0345:

Just coming out s.was film you want. Who the end users of the video and what sort of a video content.
Because these errors can then be generalized to be synonymous not, they look just a few films that have been rotated in amateur way s.and precisely because they were a huge success.
I believe that we can as it is written
THOU SHALT NOT ...... do not use it. Come just as I said s.den to film it produces.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Films are not rotated in Amaterufilmweise. When does it this way, are the deliberate thought and stylistic devices. Or do you think the film just a bad mood going on?

We are talking about the usual bugbears that have not anything on it and shoot some way for anybody. Those millions filming Rome. Those who have a completely irrelevant Birthday filming shaky and MUST play for hours afterwards. Most of these are the people who think of art have very much knowledge or her to attach a strong value. The point is to teach these amateurs a little solid camera work. It is synonymous to awaken an awareness in the shooting. Of course it is not a fixed, rigid and senseless rules that will have a limit to his creativity. Only have 99% of people do not have such creativity and to film.



Antwort von Gast1:

"andi0345" wrote:
I believe that we can as it is written
THOU SHALT NOT ...... do not use it. Come just as I said s.den to film it produces.


No fear, the Ten Commandments synonymous catch as s.and None keeps tuned :-)



Antwort von evita2067:

This a joke:
Moses comes down from the mountain and says, I have two news for you, good and bad.
First the good: I can trade him down to 10.
The bad: Adultery is still on course



Antwort von oliver II:

"Anonymous" wrote:
This a joke:
Moses comes down from the mountain and says, I have two news for you, good and bad.
First the good: I can trade him down to 10.
The bad: Adultery is still on course

LOL!



Antwort von Axel:

"filmer" wrote:
Even relatively benefit duplicated working videographers discard these rules. I get always said, "You're just stopped years ago, today are very different films".


Okay. Let's go over to the New Testament.

You have that it was said:

1) You must not blur
But I say: "Blessed are the gentle shake synonymous with action scenes, or in very emotional moments - see the very exciting work of Rodrigo Prieto (Amores Perros, 21 Grams). Wobble may be a stop error.

2) You shall not zoom
Not really. There are wonderful counterexamples in movies, but better if it remains an imperative.

3) You must not wander
An absolute dogma. Even the dogma of camera people know what they include.

4) Thou shalt not chat
For a live commentary Holiday movie, I think it's quite funny when it happens on purpose, and self-irony. Here I would prefer a neat voice-over during editing, perhaps. Because it works with amateurs often stilted and awkward.

5) You shall not turn into light
Sun in the back, can only succeed? Those who manage to control his Aperture and is aware of the effect of a light reception and him - again - consciously uses, which should be making.

6) You shall not show long shots
Time passes and with it our lives. When Great Aunt Bertha is jokingly puts on the Vespa, drauflassen moves off the thing and they rattled through the pansies, then more. If you the beauty of nature attracts and you can not avert your eyes: Abort, abort! There are still cameras, these pictures you take note of blinking and it just goes next.



Antwort von PowerMac:

§ Movies 1 and and unconsciously Gedankenlos = bad.
§ 2 = pragmatic awareness and shoot great.
§ § 3 For artistic projects can be broken, and 1 with intent intended.
§ 4 Stylistic devices defines each film.



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Axel" wrote:
3) You must not wander
An absolute dogma. Even the dogma of camera people know what they include.


Breaking the Waves!



Antwort von andi0345:

Only have 99% of people do not have such creativity and to film.
Anyone who writes something that is of itself so fully convinced.
That would mean that most are totally uncreative and no vision, no less than to have (on the Embrionalphase) developed.
Creativity does not begin with the s.sondern keep the camera is undergoing a development in their own way.
Creative people are all not just 1% of the people.
I believe that the 10 commandments have any nonsense the shooting will be seen before or afterwards, even his mistakes as mistakes are now time to live it.



Antwort von Axel:

"andi0345" wrote:
[u] In my opinion, are the 10 commandments of any nonsense will be seen before the shooting or afterward even his mistakes as mistakes are now time to live it.


The six points summarize what has probably every amateur or professional to overcome the love for one's own "plant derived" s.selbstkritischer experience.

"Helmut Newton" wrote:
The first 10,000 photographs are always terrible.




Antwort von rakzak:

tahoe when one learns that no one with the hand brake brakes.
But a real fahrprofi can just lie through the use of the hand brake a perfect 180 ° rotation-...



Antwort von Axel:

"rakzak" wrote:
tahoe when one learns that no one with the hand brake brakes.
But a real fahrprofi can just lie through the use of the hand brake a perfect 180 ° rotation-...


... And a damn about Jamie Oliver recipe books and as a deaf Beethoven composed his last symphonies. Fortunately, we are here all Natural Born Masters.



Antwort von cuco:

Hi

While we're on the subject, then I'd like to hear your thoughts views. This is my 3rd Film and the 1st that I've really worked and where real "concept" hintersteckt. So not only senseless umhergefilmt.

You understand the real meaning probably not, but it takes a whole lot of prior knowledge.

A little bit of what I will give you but times:
- The video was created of our religion class and the high school graduates in the summer of this year, shown at the end
- Their Abimotto was SK Kölsch, because their year head is Mr. Koelsch.
- There was a "legendary" football game of the teachers against this year that have won the teacher. Some original recordings (not of me, rotated) have been used in the film.
- The person on the chair s.end is this Mr. Koelsch. :-)
- Yes, the shot s.end has really taken the camera :-)
- Filmed with 2 MiniDV camcorders we have of me, an I had, one a good friend of me.

I think that's enough s.Vorgelaber, finally the film:
http://www.cuco-online.de/abifilm/abi06filmv1.2.wmv
Length: 6:02 min
Size: 37.3 MB (synonymous If necessary I can upload the uncompressed version)
Working in the pure post-processing (editing, etc.): about 40 hours (!!!)

And now I want to hear, that's OK then, what I / we have since produced? What could have been better?

Premiere 2.0 video editing program was, incidentally Pro

Ciao Tobias

PS: I invite the film just high, so please just minutes so in about 20th download when the upload is completely finished!



Antwort von StefanS:

1. Answer Cucos film, fits relating to "Thou shalt"

Thou shalt not in the wrong section of this forum :-) Leave

There are, after all, only 35 child boards, then you'll probably still make the correct

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von Axel:

"cuco" wrote:
... real "concept" ... not only senseless ....
... the real meaning ... a lot of knowledge .... Of course our religion ...


Unfathomable! In our series, O Lord, thou knowest all things: You know.



Antwort von tfp:

StefanS wrote:
Quote:
There are, after all, only 35 child boards, then you'll probably still make the correct


Sounds almost like: "Write your article in every subforum, then you'll meet synonymous definitely the right thing ...

Among the top-6 Beginners error when video tapes: I find this irgentwie Thou shalt not ... so destructive, as it were with you should not s.besten ... but otherwise it is Great, at least for those for whom it is intended.



Antwort von StefanS:

"tfp" wrote:
StefanS wrote:
Quote:
There are, after all, only 35 child boards, then you'll probably still make the correct


Sounds almost like: "Write your article in every subforum, then you'll meet synonymous definitely the right thing ...


No, it referred simply to the fact that this quantity s.Unterforen I find simply exaggerated ussynonymous precisely because this leads to Mehrfachpostings uncertainty about what "they" (who always synonymous again) is upset again & c. & c. & c. must

But I know that when I enter upon at windmills :-)

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von tfp:

Was not synonymous as seriously meant, but I'll give you quite right, I thought it was of earlier, with no subforums, synonymous much more comfortable.



Antwort von alle 6se:

probably not interested ... but I'm just sau nen film of my klassenfahrt completed and met all 6SE;)

Thanks for the tips

The Alchi-measures



Antwort von Markus:

"The Alchi attaches" wrote:
... I've just put my klassenfahrt nen film of all completed and taken 6SE;)

Congratulations, you've reached the next level of the video! Self-knowledge is the first step to recovery. ;-)



Antwort von hsp:

The film looked at someone?

I'll net from the film slyly looks to me like as if all rumkicken useless with the ball and have no plan of football then the übelst bad "actress," I believe in nem * beep * would be better placed to
So my opinion on the film shame about the time the process is there on it went for!
to say nothing of the high GEMA fees for the whole commercial music ...



Antwort von Jan:

Yes, I am of similar opinion, I think the best job in the film was made during editing, although the effects are used synonymous rar sown, perhaps more zb Effects. Install time acceleration or generally not always from the same perspective and shooting was a tripod, I think not always there ..... Even beginners programs like Pinnacle Studio Titanium Edition features 49 pros professional video effects, 400 3 D effects and what is less than 100 ¬ - you might have more to integrate into the video.

Well here's one has always been difficult with homemade Video 's - I remember s.einen well-made Sony spot - which was criticized only almost here. Yes, the demands are very high because some here synonymous to earn their money and there is expected to top performance.

I shall come to pass as well, just got the rights for 2 songs to get a music video shoot, probably with DVX 100 - I'll reinstellen probably synonymous with great not here .....

VG
Jan



Antwort von hsp:

@ van you need net accidental nor ne dvx 10AE :-)



Antwort von Jan:

I do not have the money and will let you borrow only synonymous. Although a music video with a degree of HDV would be synonymous something new - even überleg ...

Thanks But

VG
Jan



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Jan" wrote:
I do not have the money and will let you borrow only synonymous. Although a music video with a degree of HDV would be synonymous something new - even überleg ...

Thanks But

VG
Jan


Well, "new" ...



Antwort von Jan:

For me, even as a Newby to film so I'm not sure nen 35 mm adapter with 100 or DVX times with FX 1 / 7. If I understand correctly Powermac should I try from the HDV version?

VG
Jan



Antwort von Lala:

Hello,

I think dises issue very well. Thanks for the great tips.



Antwort von gast-01-07:

How about with 'ner additional rule? "Thou shalt to the selective care!" man, that cat video on youtube is indeed the shocker ...! brrrrr .....

Many greetings - andreas



Antwort von digitalCat:

"guest-01-07" wrote:
How about with 'ner additional rule? "Thou shalt to the selective care!" man, that cat video on youtube is indeed the shocker ...! brrrrr .....

Many greetings - andreas


... And what would think of a rule: "You should expect your neighbor no text in lower case and without punctuation", - it remains an unthinking boorishness.

said at least digitalCat



Antwort von hobbycut:

Good and useful summary only at point 4, I would easily respeak - it may well make sense to Begin babble of a scene a comment "are the notebook as a record can be very handy. Of course, should be removed, on average, this comment again.



Antwort von JMitch:

The best way to learn to shoot himself with me was that proved decisive. I cut for 3 years and must say that I am more pleased about it, zufinden my own style. Learing by doing - nothing is better than if we recognize his own mistakes and improve them next time. My instructions are simple:

- Not filming a scene for too long
- Still trying to interlocking
- Eg choose a creative perspective (of the top film, or between branches
With far background, etc)
- Always try to shoot in the bright (in a good camera no preference:))
- Avoid trying to be noise
- On average max. 5 seconds of the setting while
- ....

>>



Antwort von IwanDrago:

So I think this forum total geil - I have to say times. I am a complete Beginners in terms of shooting and cutting, but I have learned here in a few hours so many interesting things. A big compliment!



Antwort von Heino und Hannelore:

Is amazing how people can get excited about self-created devices and their capabilities. The main thing is get off his diet controversy. Next we will discuss about it that it probably is not a real person when you breathe in is not followed certain rules.



Antwort von patrick.gerner:

I bought Magix video and wants to cut movies of my DVD camcorder. Since I have no time, I need someone to me the program live ((!) I work in food) explained, of course fee. Anyone who lives nearby and wants to earn anything?

Please email: patrick.gerner @ web.de



Antwort von Markus73:

"patrick.gerner" wrote:
I bought Magix video and wants to cut movies of my DVD camcorder. Since I have no time, I need someone to me the program live ((!) I work in food) explained, of course fee. Anyone who lives nearby and wants to earn anything?

Sorry, but I think (as an amateur videographer with Magix and as someone who for years which makes computer-user training) for a fairly hopeless idea.

If you have no time anyway so you will not be happy.
Even if you find somebody presents you all this, then nothing will change the fact that YOU EVEN have to practice it. Magix, and is so complex that it is the beginner (which you obviously) are is busy for weeks, until somewhat running.

My suggestion would be to work through the (good) tutorials alone, so you come there faster.

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von Markus:

"patrick.gerner" wrote:
Since I have no time ...

Video recordings fit into a film also takes time, quite independently of the induction phase. If the synonymous then someone do differently? ;-)



Antwort von Lino:

The article of slashCAM is bad and is more directed s.Menschen the Main Stream cum produce, not s.welche who are registered here in the forum. For documentaries are probably good targets, but that "you can not zoom blur, and shalt wander" can not generalize it! Strong shaking and zooming can cause the recipient hectic, uncertainty and fear than just loveless s.Film work.

But what slashCAM would stroke my opinion, radical, is the proposition that "thou shalt not show preferences for too long." In "Funny Games" for example, I just find this constant for five minutes setting genial! The viewer has enough time to focus on the desperate parents whose son was shot a few minutes before their eyes! In the medium shot setting also creates mysterious atmosphere, since it does not recognize the faces of two persons only heard her screaming in despair and put her hands over her face.

Lino



Antwort von Markus:

"Lino" wrote:
The article of slashCAM [...] is more directed the Main Stream s.Menschen produce-cum ...

That's right. The article goes s.jene, take the first time, a camcorder in hand. And have yet to learn how to make some films, especially when seen against the camcorder is not approaching so emotive as in the scene with the parents whose child has just been shot.

Blurring and zooming may perhaps be thought out application of stylistic devices in order to convey certain impressions, but at the Beginners, unmotivated dauerzoomt the (s.besten in stages and just ran away again, and constantly), it has neither been able nor wanted. - Where else should do to improve the image-making?



Antwort von jansi:

The most important thing is that you can see his own mistakes, and learn from them.
If you then still synonymous read what you have done wrong, you make these mistakes less and less ....



Antwort von r.p. television:

I've just skimmed the thread here and am a little surprised.
Since everyone makes repeatedly on the typical rookie mistakes like Zoon, jelly, pan & Co manufactures - no (I think) the worst (technical & creative name) errors.
Schonmal noticed that many, although perhaps even bring a steady hand, but the motive is not properly positioned?
I am not going to start with the golden section, and such equations, but the typical beginner's mistake is still the effect that the heads of people are always centered in the middle of the picture. Or other motives. This may in some still shots organizational units, but it still looks mostly from very odd if the head while squeezed in the middle but the body s.den bottom of the screen or even cut off. It simply s.besten only empty sky.
Many film just as they see, and this is not dogma but in this case makes me consider the more tractable than all other errors.

I find that simply made in positioning the subject within the image detail too many errors.
And that is synonymous for advanced students, who may think they have their camera technology is now well under control.

If you look at a feature film, are often the heads cut (near or medium shot) and no one disturbs it. Rather, it interferes but if remains above the head of free space, neither the content nor scenically rewarding by optical support.



Antwort von Hulmunus Gastrolenbigelin:

"domain" wrote:
For starters, you can still get a lot easier to synonymous to a common denominator:

Films like you are photographing, but the shutter button pressed for at least 7 seconds long.

LG domain
Jaaaaaaaaa. Correct!



Antwort von kayburg:

oh ever since I have a lot to learn



Antwort von Nachtmensch:

Well, at last, had already 45 recorded cassettes and only now intuitively understood the 6 errors. But my wife does not. She holds on it mercilessly long and try to bring movement into the picture with zoom in - because I always say that it's too long! But now it is final, she now gets served tonight this list! So Thank you! Daner



Antwort von Lotosblüte:

Hi,

The theme of "zooming while recording" can be viewed from different perspective. Lump in my opinion can be precipitated by judge.

I film regularly in equestrian sports. Sports events or tournaments. Zooming here is indispensable. Not permanent but it did not go otherwise. We must stick s.Ereigniss, which means, purely and zoom out.

Then there is the scene of the person that comes out of the door to go to one, and then enter into the car. Depending on the conditions, it is also essential to stick s.der person. It must not be so, but it can.

For me, I can say, that's just gone because of the horses Vielfilmerei the Zoomhandling in Fleich and bloodstream. It is synchronously with the object. In addition, the zoom can be accommodated with great skill in pivoting motion.

I think that handling plays a crucial role. With a little practice, the zoom does not fall on as such. It can be skillfully applied as in the scene, which resembles a similar experience or a complete Heranfahrt Wegfahrt.

Greeting



Antwort von Nachtmensch:

yes, but for beginners it is advisable anyway to NOT zoom.

And with a horse-racing, jumping and dressage tournaments or what ever synonymous du film, you do not synonymous zooms around for fun s.der thing all the time, but only so that the display window always relatively the same.

Zoom is a complicated matter, therefore, Beginners, hands off;). The fact that he still has his right, one need not argue about it. But you should just start putting it, if you have mastered the rest ...



Antwort von Lotosblüte:

Hi,

Yes, certainly not child's play, because you're right. But I use the zoom synonymous to provide depth or weight, which has less than the background of the film documentarian.

The two biggest mistakes in my view, apart from sensitivity, zoom in are:

First, the zoom is used where it makes no sense. He will also become a stand-alone event, and alienated from each scene. Once a Zoom is seen as a change in size, the scene is already in the bucket. Unless, in the field of documentation or would like, if not next to mind.

Second, even when the zoom is the appropriate means to an end, an inverted handling brought s.den day. Either the timing is wrong or scenes to be more isolated than integrated.

The zoom can be an Aperture. He can allow depth. Only he never allowed to appear as a separate action. It is good if he was not even perceive.

When good movie, the camera moves up or out. We, as laymen, but not regular nunmal in these facilities. So one has to perform as per zoom. But credible.

And the trick here is just stay in the action.

For Beginners, I would recommend for practice to initiate the zoom s.bewegten object. That is, while I look into the camera with a goal. Often one has the opportunity, while a person with the camera follows one of the other Page, zoom, this moderate approach in order to let another person in an ideal way to get cut into focus, in which we will still be available shortly.

Thus, the second person then comes to the ideal in the pan and zoom close-up (subjects Reconciliation), is not it later on. It is as if it could not be otherwise. The Zoom has no one noticed.

There are far more creative freedom. I would recommend the Beginners but do not stop practicing and temperate dealing with the zoom. Low Budget to worry, as the zoom is used creatively or on film, do not change as a technical possibility of image. The zoom can change the depth to change the expression. Shocking increase, meditative stress.

Since I pferdesportmäßig films not only from a purely sporting thoughts, but tinkering in the private environment synonymous to the little one or the other movies together, playing the film synonymous halt its role.

One can as an example of an approaching horse, of course, with practice, through targeted a type of synchronous zoom out "to create moving on the spot", which provides a very large Fasziantion because otherwise hardly feasible. Just as well, of course, synonymous with a car, a runner. Changes can then later edit the synonymous nor the time and makes the person, animal or vehicle from this perspective s.sich by running in the next film, has been a very valuable recording.

I personally lures Zoomeinsatzmöglichkeit again.

Greeting



Antwort von Axel:

"Lotus Flower" wrote:
First, the zoom is used where it makes no sense .... I personally lures Zoomeinsatzmöglichkeit again.

I once described the typical use of a zoom lens at Gelegenheitsfilmern:
It is s.einem scene which one wants to adhere to Video ".
It is, say, the marketplace of a small town. Beautiful. How do I keep the "down"? I walk with my cam as I think it corresponds to the normal view, I "scan" the environment (this corresponds to another beginner's mistake, the wanderings), by panning, linger here and there on a beautiful facade.
Swirl In fact, "" we, of course, not even with our eyes, unless we're drunk. We collect the sequence motifs that are of interest (the "nice" facade, catch a glimpse, just one is) a theme, then we turn the head to the next subject, but we usually just close the lids. It is therefore consistent with a cut rather than a swing.
Then, in the non-interrupted recording, boredom. No eye-catcher. Up the wrought iron sign appears "Rathauskeller" with the golden coat of arms. This then acts as the center of the urinal fly and printed one draufzoomen must involuntarily.

A zoom effect is (almost) always alienating, because you're right. There are few situations in which he, for example as a subjective view can be justified:

From his hotel window, the agent saw the man with the sunglasses off the wagon. His eye fell on the hand with the remote-controlled detonators ...

This means that a faster zoom.



Antwort von chlorophyll:

Hi Axel,

Delicious. I had to Weglache me just because of your comments with the City Hall basement shield. Well said. Thus the motto, eh? ahhhh, there!

Man, I'm too stupid, there is no suitable smilie?

Well, zoom in fully on remote-controlled detonator, I do not know. I'd Fernzünderaktion from the Betrachtungsmaß agent s.Fenster left, then on the sunglasses of the killer, in which the detonation would be reflected. One can see from the room, which he pressed his hand with a controller. Then the quick zoom on the face with a broad grin, the killer's. Then, in the eyewear, the detonation.

Well, your example with film in the city schonmal would generally be at issue. What I want to show? The life of the building, the historical, the market activity?

It is always written a script type. Can synonymous times go very quickly in my head. what you describe, which is similar in fact a meaningless record of anything. I guess that happens the person who has no real interest in making a movie about something.

You are right in your described situation, we perform no-turn, but picture after picture. I had s.Anfang even the problem that the track of a horse gallop or trot always was a new picture. Only with time was the view of the action itself in the moment, it is similar to a mitgleiten to go with or pan. The scenery, which passed the horse, you can not see. For keeping track of the action itself, this is unavoidable. And when are preparing for a zoom, it will run synchronously with suitable timing. And he will remain a content of the action.

But this is absolutely a matter of practice, Lernsache. Therefore one must already be merged with the quasi-flow.

I had filmed some time ago, a fall s.einem serious obstacle. Thank God everything went good. An obstacle s.einem moat. Horse stuck on. Somersault over the horse rider and ends up with her horse in the water filled ditch. High fountains splash. I had aufzoomen this scene, the next obstacle, the path was.

A highlight scene for photographers. The fall was to me only when it became aware of the scene in the box. The woman could fall dead, and yet would not be a fraction of this whole scene disappeared. I spent the later Zoomszene speed in slower, which missed the whole course, a completely different style.

gruß



Antwort von Reimer Reimer:

Here, even a counterplots for beginners Short Films:

10 Deadly Sins of student films

http://www.filmmaker.com/DUMPS.html

The very end there is an addition:

Why are not zooms in general on this list?

Often in film school, the only aesthetic advice you will get is
"Do not use zooms." Screw that.
Zooms are NOT on this list. That's because zooms, while potential
cheese, can be used even s.the student level effectively and are
much cooler than most film schools even understand.


My recommendation: one can zoom in as you want, but only
If you are going to cut synonymous small film and fast
to dispose of all zooms.

All the best Axel



Antwort von BöMa:

. . . I have the technique of 8mm, Super 8, and 16mm, and now since 2 years, the Dig. 8mm and am now just annoyed at!
In the summer I have my Holiday will be cut and transferred to DVD movie back against " ¬" do not ask me how I entäuscht. . . .
. . . who gives me the Stuttgart area, cut a little help film, then at least care for Vespers, etc. Thank you!



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Bzgl Zoom Yes or No My Prediction time
BARRY LYNDON Kubrick of look - my Meihnung after one of his best films are synonymous if the subject matter is nich everyone I find the movie very successful.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Reimer Reimer:

Hello B.De.Kid,

I just sold my Kubrick Box had, I must simply
ask if you are: How zoom in Barry Lyndon is used?

I have the movie ages ago and remember last seen
especially s.The candles scenes. But zoom?

All the best Axel



Antwort von Axel:

Hi Axel,
Do you remember determined s.The scene in which Nora Barry's cousin, the British officer gives a blue ribbon. The setting is typical of the zooms in Barry Lyndon. It starts on the hands of the two, then moves the zoom very, very slowly back until the two tiny figures, only two are in a green Irish countryside, the picture now looks like a painting.

Technical details: There was such a huge zoom lens (20 x) not for 35mm cameras, so a zoom for 16mm cameras was adapted.

In addition, the zoom is controlled remotely, via video assist and joystick, the former known a few years, the latter a novelty. The difficulty was not to allow the zoom suddenly start, but to infiltrate slowly. As usual, the recordings were repeated until you drop, in part one days was not enough for a Take. Changing light conditions were controlled with filters and Aperture, when it rained, all fled in specially purchased VW buses, with which we scouted locations for months, despite a convoy always mobile in search of some suitable field or grove gurkte through the area.



Antwort von Reimer Reimer:

Thank you!

Should I watch the film smoothly again.

All the best Axel



Antwort von BöMa:

"BOEMA" wrote:
. . . I have the technique of 8mm, Super 8, and 16mm, and now since 2 years, the Dig. 8mm and am now just annoyed at!
In the summer I have my Holiday will be cut and transferred to DVD movie back against " ¬" do not ask me how I entäuscht. . . .
. . . who gives me the Stuttgart area, cut a little help film, then at least care for Vespers, etc. Thank you!


. . . yes hello and good day, it's me again - s.was is it that there is in the Stuttgart area of no help to my problem. . . .
. . . I am the only one in the Stuttgart area like the video film cutting. . . this is a forum for beginners or for the Master!
Should it be s.der compensation, well, nothing is nothing - but you should already talking about it - Mfg. + Thank You



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"BOEMA" wrote:
... s.was is it that in the Stuttgart area, it is no help for my problem ...

Maybe it's because your question here, something goes down: a thread similar errors in the recording does not read necessarily someone who has cut enough experience to give you tips. Mach s.besten to a new thread with expressive title, then increase the chances for an answer.

"BOEMA" wrote:
... this is a forum for beginners or for the master ...

Both as synonymous, and for everyone in between - so far should anyone be found who can help you.



Antwort von deti:

"BOEMA" wrote:
. . . I am the only one in the Stuttgart area like the video film cutting. . . this is a forum for beginners or for the Master!
Should it be s.der compensation, well, nothing is nothing - but you should already talking about it - Mfg. + Thank You


Everyone has different ideas of what constitutes a good film, and None can give you a recipe. Above and talking is fine, but you should orient yourself s.dem what you like. And you do s.besten basis of shooting, that you like. How do you then implement it according to your shooting is a question of practice. This costs a different amount of time, but since you have to stop biting - no champion has yet fallen from the sky.



Antwort von BöMa:

"deti" wrote:
"BOEMA" wrote:
. . . I am the only one in the Stuttgart area like the video film cutting. . . this is a forum for beginners or for the Master!
Should it be s.der compensation, well, nothing is nothing - but you should already talking about it - Mfg. + Thank You


Everyone has different ideas of what constitutes a good film, and None can give you a recipe. Above and talking is fine, but you should orient yourself s.dem what you like. And you do s.besten basis of shooting, that you like. How do you then implement it according to your shooting is a question of practice. This costs a different amount of time, but since you have to stop biting - no champion has yet fallen from the sky.


. . . . Thank you for your masterful share name, but I did not immediately wrote of good success and a good film, not synonymous verkleichen of existing work. . . . . My only question was s.The Practical and Basic Technical assistance and implementation ....... (; such as basic assistance is for what and what the simple editing program, Professional Basic introduction, etc. - all just to introduce...) of any child demands that Abi, but it knows what's coming with the help of the school bag. . . . or are they spending of the previous film making where, for reasons already cost the basic ids / concept, Scheduled Recordings, the record Protokolierte and then cut with the self-consuming bekleben and subsequent occupation of the soundtrack with sound assignments and so on. . . . Now, please, as is their insight! - None longer asks for the days of work, but I had to learn synonymous with comradely Tech Help!
Let's see if it goes by year, questions ask for help and then how to apply the new basic technique then they are synonymous intended for practical help gratefully (; the letter in the Forum does not provide basic help!). . . . all good.
Thanks and with best regards.



Antwort von pilskopf:

But there are not enough tutorials, from which you could learn? To properly learn the cut is more than difficult, it is clearly a matter of feeling and taste of their own. One eigentlichganz quickly identifies which sections are not good, you have to know what's bad so do not even s.Schnitt but each one feels bad cut immediately. The technical know how of a cutting program, one must often teach themselves. Or do I understand you now completely wrong?



Antwort von domain:

"I have the technique of 8mm, Super 8, and 16mm, and now since 2 years, the Dig. 8mm"

Yes then you have already a lot of experience synonymous with the filming and the editing. Yes today is not fundamentally different from before, except that it has become even easier and there are more options.
Where is the problem? If you have no PC or no experience with this or what?
The NL-editors of ¬ 100 - Price class are all fairly simple to use, do not fail to kanns before.



Antwort von pilskopf:

As simple as it is today it was really never. Try a couple of Programs in this category ¬ 100 a try, there are trials for each program.

What simpler like the Magix Video Deluxe synonymous I've never seen before. Tutorials, there are really good about this on the Magix Page. Because even I could still learn something recently.

Never give your personal videos into foreign hands if you will not be disappointed, do everything yourself, only you know what you like synonymous and which scenes you want.

I would be quite willing to show you the program but I do not live in Stuttgart.



Antwort von Axel:

BOEMA attended the forum last time 7 months ago.



Antwort von pilskopf:

"Axel" wrote:
BOEMA attended the forum last time 7 months ago.


loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. If he has found, however, still no, he has now got the least a tip. : D




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