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Frage von Pianist:


Fine reading s.alle good day!

I have the thankless task of a foreign movie to save, and must for that reason only once-and XDCAM EX material in my Avid Media Composer 2.6.6 import. Now I have noticed that especially on the Sony software "XDCAM EX Clipbrowser" runs, which is capable of these MPEG-4 files in MXF files.

This software I have downloaded and found: There are three different MXF export opportunities. In all three versions of the Avid rebelled and put the files in quarantine. But at least I can at one of the three variants of the file then from the quarantine folder in the Avid import. Small flaw: There is suddenly on the top left of a company logo ( "Main Concept") to see. Presumably a "plugin", which is (perhaps a fee) must unlock. Precise information about this I find nowhere.

Now I find it quite unpleasant, if I be prevented from using the software be delivered material into usable state in my editing system to import. Are there other possibilities?

I feel once again confirms that it is better to XDCAM devices with nothing to do with war, just as it can sometimes not entirely avoided.

Matthias

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Pianist" wrote: (...) I'm once again confirms that it is better to XDCAM devices with nothing to do with war, just as it can sometimes not entirely avoided. (...)

I feel once again confirms that it is better with Avid systems do nothing to make it work, just as it can sometimes not entirely avoided.

Possible solution: On a Final Cut Pro editing space import and convert to MXF.

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Antwort von ed-media:

Avid s.einem reasonable or via HD-SDI or SDI right of her to restore the camera, it works always.

In our company the Avid Media Composer, you can have all XDCAM import. If what does not work then as usual, as the EX1 or 3 via SDI link, then it works.

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Antwort von Pianist:

"ed-media" wrote: Avid s.einem reasonable or via HD-SDI or SDI right of her to restore the camera, it works always.
Then I would first of such a strange Camera care. Is everything to me s.sich expensive if you want to remember that a foreign project is that I should lead finish. It is just this hard drive with all the data, there is no more. And I have already all the (party) day vertrödelt inconclusive. As such, I do nothing else, what is not in my workflow fits, but in this specific case, I am of a long-term contracting have been recommended and now needs to decide quickly whether I do or not. An acceptable outcome because unfortunately can not get out anyway, but yes it does nothing for the cause.

In any case, I have for these technical barriers no sympathy.

Matthias

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

Perhaps this PDF will help you:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/assets/files/micro/xdcamex/downloads/Media_Composer_XDCAM_Workflow_v9_6.pdf

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Bernd E." wrote: Perhaps this PDF will help you:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/assets/files/micro/xdcamex/downloads/Media_Composer_XDCAM_Workflow_v9_6.pdf

That I had already become synonymous through. There is that one from the clip browser is not one of the three types of export MXF is what I tried first, but after AAF. I then also tried, with the result that it's not working. So this is already exporting, but not the import in Avid.

So I have to EUR 212 for the plugin unlock so that Main Concept logo disappears. I find it scandalous if any, that Sonyeine Camera sold, where the material does not immediately and without charge plugins in the world's leading editing system can be installed.

Matthias

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Pianist" wrote: ... scandalous that sells Camera Sonyeine, whose material does not ... in the world's leading editing system can be installed ...
What? In FinalCut Pro klappt's not synonymous? Times ;-) But seriously: Can it be that your version of MC is simply too old to have XDCAM EX support? I have no idea of Avid, find on the homepage does not synonymous MC 2.6.6, but at the time of On the market since the EX1 seems to 2.7.7 and 2.8 the current version of MC had to be.

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Bernd E." wrote: I have no idea of Avid, find on the homepage does not synonymous MC 2.6.6, but at the time of On the market since the EX1 seems to 2.7.7 and 2.8 the current version of MC had to be.
So my system is just under two years old. Usually I buy a system that never change anything to use it and at least ten years. So I changed it with the previously made and wanted to make this again synonymous. Most pick one but by updates any problems inside that you previously did not have.

Maybe I leave it on a newer system test times, or find someone who is in the plugin SonyXDCAM EX Clip Browser freigekauft has.

Matthias

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Antwort von mon3:

gabs before 2 years because even the EX1?

the MC in version 3, it should be, at least I have "real" XDCAM material (ie of BR disc) without detours can import

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Mr. Köhler, you just do not understand that we live in 2008.
Updates always showed sense. Your dogmatism against updates like the mid-90s sometimes have sense, and today you're just a pipe.
You have to be reserved to you that your living is not conservative at the moment suits. I advise you quickly on the update train aufzuspringen or you will in the next 10 years. Otherwise you're in 2019 old and uncool. Thus, the orders from. And your throbbing to the "industry standard" Avid is ridiculous. The market shares of Avid drop resistant, and dissemination is to say more shit. I have noted: Avid is no industry standard anymore. For a year, I have no longer a Avid seen, even I, who jumps around a lot! Why should synonymous of a CameraLink version of a cut Sonyeine system of two years ago, would you support? This is ridiculous. The world is next. A professor I had at the time of the proverb "He who is not with the times, goes with the times". I hope you finally understand the relationships of our time. I say this because I appreciate you. Your films I've never seen.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Pianist" wrote: ... my system is just under two years old ...
The EX1 was a year ago on the market.

"Pianist" wrote: ... Usually I buy a system that never change anything to use it and at least ten years ...
The principle is certainly not the worst, then, logically, but caused problems when viewing with a format to work / needs it to buy the time of the cutting program did not exist. Since then neither can Sony Avid something yet to do so.

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Antwort von Pianist:

"PowerMac" wrote: You have to be reserved to you that your living is not conservative at the moment suits.
My "conservative living" but it has ensured that I never have any problems with my computer and had everything working. Those living ensures synonymous incidentally that I have not been at home.

As long as something works, I hold it not. I have even my accounting program is not updated for years, because I am in the appropriate forum had ever read, what with the new versions for each new problems arose, which it previously did not exist. Only when all were resolved, I have several times years later, the current version it played.

If someone guarantees that after an Avid update and everything still works no problems, which it previously did not exist, then I do so willingly. But I have no desire, then synonymous nor any expensive plugins like "Boris RED" to update, because suddenly no longer work together. And I certainly do not want, nor s.der hardware synonymous something to change, because suddenly everything only half as fast runs.

This experience, incidentally, I had the Mac, which I as an office-use calculator, because I am with a Windows calculator does not want to go to the Internet: Since ran on a colorful iMac with system 8.6 fine. Then there was the situation that I, for whatever reasons, s.die I no longer remember, on System 9 or had wanted to go. With the result that did not work because s.irgendeiner place the cat's tail always in the biss. Then I have an eMac purchased with OS X. When I then several years later on a newer OS X'm gone, the whole system was suddenly totally experienced, because the newer software probably want newer hardware. But since I do not with. I do not buy every few years a new office computer.

In such a moment kramer my Atari ST with 1 MB of RAM out, load the operating system of a 3.5-inch floppy disk, floppy disk loading of Cubase, verstöpsele the calculator with one of my synths, and music a bit and am still impressed what capabilities with as little technology I was already there.

Matthias

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Antwort von domain:

Is already a strong piece that no variant of the MC "Material Exchange Format" to import, because precisely this purpose, the container so many years ago already created. In my old Avid Liquid was the MXF format of the EX1 in any event immediately import.
In fact, apart from the header only ordinary mpeg2 material packed, which ev by changing the extension to m2t or attach the m2t extension can be imported. Has already been implemented with success.
Have you actually tried pianist?

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Antwort von Pianist:

"PowerMac" wrote: The market shares of Avid drop resistant, and dissemination is to say more shit. I have noted: Avid is no industry standard anymore. For a year, I have no longer a Avid seen, even I, who jumps around a lot!
I come around much synonymous and have never seen anywhere a Final Cut Pro seen. Definitely not for businesses, cutting the main operating rooms. And at the stations anyway. From me from so everyone can cut what he wants.

In any case I am extremely pleased that the workflow between the Ikegami Editcam HD and the Avid so brilliantly. I had already synonymous all possible situations in which I got reliable material, or even had to deliver because we have both native Quicktime elected and the packaging has a great work. So here I see more of the camera manufacturers in the Bring guilt, if he something exotic to the people released.

But I will certainly in the coming days get resolved, either by Avid Update or via Sony plugin activation.

Matthias

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Antwort von Pianist:

"domain" wrote: Is already a strong piece that no variant of the MC "Material Exchange Format" to import, because precisely this purpose, the container so many years ago already created.
But, yes he can. XDCAM, XDCAM HD, no problem. But XDCAM EX is something else and the only runs on the Clipbrowser software of Sony. The software breaks Clipbrowser the optional after "MXF XDCAM HD, XDCAM HD MXF 422" or "MXF for NLE" around. So in any case are the three MXF export opportunities. I did it first with "MXF for NLE" tries to make it synonymous made without grumble, but then shows no images. Presumably, the other for an update. The "HD MXF DCAM does complete, just superimposed with Logo of" Main Concept ", so I can see that after the unlock fee is gone.

"domain" wrote: In fact, apart from the header only ordinary mpeg2 material packed, which ev by changing the extension to m2t or attach the m2t extension can be imported.
Have you actually tried pianist?

No, when it is XDCAM EX MPEG-4. And that may be my version of Avid generally not, maybe after the update. Moreover, I am not 300 manual folder open by 300 rename files individually. Because with each XDCAM EX Clip has a separate folder.

Matthias

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Antwort von domain:

The XDCAM EX format of the EX1 / 3 is a long GOP MPEG2 VBR format with 35 Mbit / sec, since you can poison and take it with Extensionrenamern can in 5 seconds all the files in a folder while renaming.
Please not the mp4 container with mpeg4 confused.
Even a mp4 container can mpeg2-containing material.

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Antwort von Marco:

"I'll be around much synonymous and have never seen anywhere a Final Cut Pro view. At least not in business, the main cutting operating rooms. And when the broadcasters do not."

As you lying quite wrong.

Marco

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Antwort von Pianist:

"domain" wrote: The XDCAM EX format of the EX1 / 3 is a long GOP MPEG2 VBR format with 35 Mbit / sec, since you can poison and take it with Extensionrenamern can in 5 seconds all the files in a folder while renaming.
Please not the mp4 container with mpeg4 confused.
Even a mp4 container can mpeg2-containing material.

Right, because you have right. That I had not thought of. Can all but synonymous in many files at the same time rename folders? Because XDCAM EX each clip has its own folder.

Matthias

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Marco" wrote: As you lying quite wrong.
I know what I have seen ... :-)

But if you like it is so important for me that the opposite is convincing, then just counting times on the major broadcasters and production houses do not work with Avid. In itself, I know in the Berlin area only one exception: The ARD Berlin Studio. They have the Editibox of Quantel.

I have nothing against Final Cut Pro. Especially for lone independent to a powerful and cost-effective system want to have is certainly a good thing. But who has 10 or 15 years working with Avid, it is usually synonymous to stay. Especially since I am aware of the connection between the camera and editing system chosen.

Matthias

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Antwort von Marco:

I am not a burden of proof. Some broadcasters ARD use Final Cut Pro, of private production houses would grow. But this lyre, because of "the system uses XY but not a serious company," is ancient, concerns not only Final Cut Pro and testifies again and again of ignorance.

Marco

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