Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Now synonymous of Canon - EOS 5D MarkII with FullHD video of rudi - 17 Sep 2008 11:24:00 Well to synonymous with the Nikon D90 is not the entire field to leave alone, is now presented Canon EOS 5D MarkII for the video market. The 2500 Euro expensive DSLR camera can be as opposed to Nikon (5 min 720p25) even up to 12 minutes 1080p30 as MPEG4 in Quicktime / Mov container record. Only the file size limit of 4 GB sets the time limit. In any case, a clear sign that this market is now also of all manufacturers is seen, and also a bad sign for all Manufacturer of 35mm adapters ...
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Antwort von WWJD:
Finally, one hears again of what Canon.
Top ..........
Jack
Antwort von Axel:
... 'm sure to meinn camcorder.
please tell me what the XH A1 may be better for me, so I have no bad feeling ;-) It's still better. A DSLR and HD-Cam must not exclude, can indeed complementary. I do not see myself, with a box full of memory cards (somehow changed every few minutes and in a booklet labeled Eingetütet) on any reportagemäßigen rotation (the Canon is strongly recommended wedding photographers for wedding
films is clearly not to use).
For studio recordings certainly not bad. There is a lack of XLR inputs of course ;-)
I say if or when you's can make her so. My Non-Full DSL does have fun, but it is clearly better. But, as I said, it is
always better ...
Moreover, now that the download is complete: When I pull the stool from, it is not managed. Considering that no testing of Ahnungslosen are, these are the pearls of handpicked professionals. The A1 with the correct preset and a Letus of stool
may have a tear, despite scheiß 1440 HDV.
Antwort von domain:
1920x1080 with Vollformatsensor but unfortunately only with
30fps at 38.6 Mbits / sec MPEG-4, which was the expected response of Canon to the Nikon D90, which with its even greater handicaps already looks pretty old.
But it seems to me the features of the new DSLR in video mode the moment nor Marketinggags tend to be.
But the potential of this development is enormous and of course you do not need much imagination to have the consequences on the video sector predict.
Antwort von domain:
How should provide a synonymous of the Resolutionher a 2 megapixel image, so every cell phone today can produce from stool tear.
But with the large sensors are quite different advantages especially in 12 bit mode to wear: light sensitivity, making possible in different sharpness levels, much greater dynamic range and above all synonymous finally times of Optics point of view of the nearly 100% Ausreizung the system boundaries in 2K this format.
Antwort von buildyo:
S.die experts question: Is h.264 with 40 Mbits / s for real 1280 * p * corresponds to the well or "just" the 17-20 Mbits / s for the 1280 * i * of the current AVCHD camcorders?
Antwort von Mankell:
What is the downside of 30 fps?
Antwort von the_flasher:
30fps is not a disadvantage that is only one standard.
Europe PAL 25fps, the rest of the world NTSC 30fps.
I personally have nothing against NTSC, so that can slow shots better realize that it has more frames per second are available, as in Pal.
The biggest shortcoming is the strong Kompresion of his videos, resulting in problems with finishing it.
Gruss theflasher
Antwort von Axel:
12 bit mode? Should be sensational? If yes, in the Movie mode is not available anyway. Dynamic range? How should be increased? The sensitivity is higher, but the drab Download Jpeg see me more particularly from low dynamic range, so you almost want to say the photographer, Jung,'s try it out with `nem Grauverlaufsfilter.
Antwort von bojo:
the times are rather decent hd camcorder tinker! :-)
Antwort von Cocoa_Magazin:
As synonymous with Nikon not half and nothing whole. 30fps for us filmmakers are unusable and even more the lack of manual controls! A great idea of Nikon and Canon, but unfortunately poorly executed and so absolutely useless!
Antwort von Jan:
Hi,
because my Canon Contact geflunkert well (you will be shocked), well at least my statement was an early model with HD video function properly.
Insanity a DSLR with an external microphone port!
I will wait until the end of November and then a few L Lenses and hopefully to be amazed ....
Could look great, a Sennheiser mic on a Canon DSLR with L-Optics.
VG
Jan
Antwort von SixFo:
And all for only 5 D Mark mauahahaha
Antwort von domain:
.. the sad download Jpeg see me more particularly from low dynamic range, so you almost want to say the photographer, Jung,'s try it out with `nem Grauverlaufsfilter.
Antwort von Jan:
Very interesting domain - you can see already the longer you're in the matter.
I have the 5 D Mark II, now held in the hand, you might get on the LCD barely make a good assessment - it was nonetheless very interesting.
A pure AutoFocus has them in the video function, you can either have the AF On button Sharpen (or you keep it pressed for a equal to simulate AF) or you focussiert as professional cameras in the front s.der Optics manual.
Since the focus operation when the video function on the main CMOS happens (usually happens when the DSLR cameras by an extra sensor in the mirror box below - and so much faster), the camera is not quite as fast. But much faster than the live picture mode of the Canon EOS 450 or EOS 1000 - or synonymous to the new 50 D). The focal length may vary for relocation synonymous with fast USM motors a few seconds hinzögern.
Professionals will certainly not disturb, because the front eh prefer the sharpness on the ring pull.
Microphone input is suspected as 3.5 mm jack.
I liked the look, especially with telephoto lenses interesting.
Even if the video function is omitted - it will definitely go their way.
Unfortunately, it was almost impossible to shoot films testing, it brought some memory card was formatted on the spot - it is indeed in the model to Vorseriengeräte ...
May be synonymous to it yet one or the other better.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Axel:
@ domain:
That is all undeniable. I find no evidence to suggest that with this camera in the dynamic range of more than six screens creates the images of her and shoot it at more like stinknormalem video. Where the drawing of either the depth or height is missing, then use a higher color depth synonymous nothing. The scope so that it can better spread behind, but with sun and shadow must all be old fathers custom lights by either the filter or otherwise absorb and / or lighten the shadows to be displayed in the area to stay. Or, as in the HDR-linked film, an exposure bracketing shooting. And unfortunately that's just on the movie mode is not applicable, but synonymous with a Ixus possible.
Defines `a good camera, but no sensation.
Antwort von domain:
I have not synonymous of the current possibilities div DSRLs spoken in the video area, but the potential possibilities of the same .......
Antwort von Cocoa_Magazin:
@ domain:
obviously have much more modern camcorder stops! One can expect of 7-10.
Antwort von Axel:
@ domain:
obviously have much more modern camcorder stops! One can expect of 7-10.
Cam Corder? Can you mention as a source?
Antwort von domain:
Do you consumer camcorders, of which I have spoken, or professional camcorder?
The latter may have special procedures on the one (non-linear gamma curves) or on different settings and selectable Picture Profiles hand naturally and show significantly more s.die respective light conditions.
Antwort von Axel:
Such picture profiles, there's so synonymous with Consumercams, while in the baby care package with fewer options, but the effect was not "less".
The problem of electronic signal processing, below and above certain voltages can not be differentiated (0 / 1), is so fundamental and inevitable that for many years, Photoshop and / or analog photography in the Canon / Sony / Nikon brochures aushilft so whose dynamic images not puff out. These claims of each group, that each new generation of revolutionary camera would have made progress, while in truth the body occurs. In order to increase the dynamics, not enough gamma buckling, as a totally fresh approach her.
Comparison with the automobile production: Since the target was a 3-liter car to build, all the relevant parameters are exhausted, and we landed at a reasonable "smart" soapbox. Frustrated began, increasingly nonsensical crates to build, and today we have the Hummer family. Nevertheless there will always be advertising that in with the fuel savings being advertised, while the car actually needs 10 liters.
The Still Image / video sector, the private correspondence to the tank megapixels. Will not last long, and we read 30 megapixels! The images in the catalog have not changed ...
Antwort von domain:
The internal A / D converter of camcorders today are all in the 12-14 Bitbereich, ie with relatively large s.sich Dynamics.
The problem I see is more likely that, especially in the video area this bandwidth then mostly on 8-bit, 10 bit rare to be compressed and there is often just the top and bottom trimmed.
It is true however, that specifically Canon synonymous in the consumer area profiles, leading to a softer gradation lead.
But what you hear then whining about the Cinema eg gamma: too meager, no saturated colors, blurred are all completely normal consequences of a softer gradation. This applies both to the perceived sharpness impression, especially through which the image contrast in general, but especially by the contrast edges (digital sharpening) is caused or propagated as synonymous for the slack colors. This increases color saturation completely synchronously with an ev afterwards carried Kontrastaufsteilung. Almost in every case so that it is not necessary to increase the color saturation in the NLE.
This can be synonymous in Photoshop try: a "normal" times in the Picture contrast and reduce already seen all the effects described in pure culture, and then again back to normal gradation and everything is back in order.
So I would especially in strong sunlight and drop shadows in any event, the softer profiles by then maybe in retrospect to be corrected. It has so much more certainty that the lights do not burn out and the shadows fall.
It would of course be specific to the EOS 5D shame if they do not have facilities would provide, various Gradationsprofile before the select Recording.
Antwort von Axel:
D'accord to everything you write. Only one thing: The colors you use in the Nachbarbeitung what you've described it very well, with the aperture size of the recording - I mean that with Dynamics - it has nothing to do.
Had the forest in the first demo Mov a 12-bit image Still, it would be futile because the black will never again a range of thousands of shades of green is. And the girl on the glanzlippige portrait is - of course, "creative" - Highkey, so you no longer notice how unromantic behind the recording of an old-fashioned Hasselblad behind. Once white, always know that you know, yes.
With your recipe, which contrasts with the recording that can be displayed on the panel to reduce its volume, but to get perfect results, wesewegen now I stop, to split hairs.
Antwort von scubavideo1:
So .... is already here, where the way to go in the future:
HDR by RAW processing of data directly to h.264 in the camera processor. All just a matter of time until the processor power will last.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
If you are under the 5D MkII video aspects (especially in low light) interested in this blog should keep an eye on:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks Bernd!
Times I think a new era begins ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Bernd,
There is talk that 1080 of them in RAW comes from the camera, but that nothing has changed s.den pictures .... there is a different understanding?
It is black in all the pictures "abgesoffen" and white is synonymous "burnt out" .... of RAW, I would expect something else.
And why is the water in the center of the image first image sharp, but not the actors? And not only right to the bottom of the screen out ...
Is the Focus at a depth of more than 35mm film but maybe too difficult to set?
Where is the autofocus?
But the low-light behavior 6y pixels is already impressive, if the image processing is reasonable would support.
So something more practical pixel number that's about it but for those who do not want to do photos.
Full And with an external monitor for the right sharpness .... or just a lot of time and luck.
Antwort von domain:
But the low-light behavior 6y pixels is already impressive, if the image processing is reasonable would support.
So something more practical pixel number that's about it but for those who do not want to do photos.
The excessively large number of pixels need not necessarily be a disadvantage. If, for example, each 4 pixels into a single interpolated results are in my opinion by averaging synonymous only a quarter of the noise. The one that has small pixels s.sich gets randomly stop less light quanta, which is next to the more, on average, can not much difference to a real giant of the four-pixel area.
But apart from the times it seems that the current generation camera synonymous with the rather small 20 million pixels have an amazing sensitivity to light record what I actually do not quite understand.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
@ Bernd .... is there a different understanding? ... Why is the water in the center of the image first image sharp, but not the actors? ... Where is the auto ...
Good questions, but I have this camera neither designed nor photographed with her, so I, unfortunately, the answers must remain guilty ;-) Insights said: I watch the 5D MkII just out of interest s.der technical development - for the practical use irritates me a Nikon D700 much more, even though they can no videos.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
The lack of depth at several recordings as a criticism but is totally inappropriate.
If my historical photographs with a 15mm Wide Angled Nikon (last F4) see, then there was katastrophalerweise p.35 cm to infinity everything sharp, so what are these arguments, the absolute depth of field was and is synonymous with Vollformatsensoren always been give and where .
But such extreme focal lengths between normal and telephoto lenses or focal lengths will probably every former photographer clear boundaries and they can appreciate synonymous.
Antwort von Jan:
I see the 5D MkII just out of interest s.der technical development - for the practical use of irritates me a Nikon D700 much more, even though they can no videos.
Gruß Bernd E.
I had as the little sister of the D 700 - the D 300 with a Nikkor 80-400 VR ED 1:4,5-5,6 tested - which can very well be synonymous recommend. Although the 5 D Mk II rauschmäßig well everything should beat - we wait times from.
VG
Jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
Anschauen:
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2086
Antwort von Jan:
I do not know why you so down the Camera makes such pictures you never get with a 5000 ¬ Video Camera.
We go times assume that the images the user does not have extremely manipulated.
Soon I have the camera in the store synonymous, then it immediately goes outside for Lowlightaufnahmen - of course with good telephoto lenses - so look out at what .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Axel:
I do not know why you so down the Camera makes such pictures you never get with a 5000 ¬ Video Camera.
It makes it down None. I have just written, that are directly linked films are crap. Such things do you get static with any HD cam out.
The new film sees class. Be me this or a similar camera probably sometime indulge. The movie mode is still not quite filmecht. 30 fps for video see much of (is a matter of taste). For many shoots as a video camera is not as convenient. But Lowlight properties seem to be first class.
Antwort von Autor:
Can the Camera synonymous s.ein laptop and so extend the recording time, or as I've seen in pictures, it has an HDMI output, you can live because the video tap?
Antwort von alibaba:
should already work as it is now HDMI capture cards there and if the focus frame in the picture is you have already made with the 40d and would certainly be synonymous with the 50d possible because these synonymous HDMI OUT hat.hätte I bought the 50d happy because they far cheaper than the 5d and erhältlich.Leider already has it but no audio recording could be so synonymous otherwise lösen.Ich imagine with me just before the 50d via HDMI to capture and everything set to manual since I'm in photo mode! there as a hurdle that does not work? how is the issue of the 50d via HDMI?
I know that my 40d of the rolling shutter when I move them from the light and the light that is of course very bad if it were the case.
here the video for the 40d he has with the software on the captured video content is still no hd.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=25071096
I hope for a 60d with video capture and mic and manual settings before I changed not.
here is what fun and less fun to topic
http://vimeo.com/1723303
http://vimeo.com/1713382
gruss alex
Antwort von Axel:
The comparison between the D90 and the HVX is less meaningful than it would have been possible if we both would have better exposure. Apparently starting the period of the DSLR in the video sector. A handle on the camera or a handle that will be developed, so that synonymous times from the hands of film and spicy at the same time can provide.
The first film nervt synonymous over the exposure (in large parts), but the 21fps Jerkiness quite charming.
Antwort von Blofeld:
In any event, it will be exciting, no doubt. I fänd synonymous's good if they would have for Europe 25fps, or at least the option.
I am amazed, however, that the Canon allows its engineers have ... they have so much as a not insignificant Videocam line.
I got myself back then purchased the EOS5D when she came out, and it is still great - the New, however, is still great:)
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Domain
The excessively large number of pixels need not necessarily be a disadvantage. If, for example, each 4 pixels into a single interpolated results are in my opinion by averaging synonymous only a quarter of the noise.
Pixelbinning CMOS is neither possible nor in the use in single-chip cameras with a Farbmosaik mask.
But with the large sensors are quite different advantages especially in 12 bit mode to wear: light sensitivity, making possible in different sharpness levels, much greater dynamic range and above all synonymous finally times of Optics point of view of the nearly 100% Ausreizung the system boundaries in 2K this format.
Pity that in the 12-bit video mode does not occur.
@ Author
Can the Camera synonymous s.ein laptop and so extend the recording time, or as I've seen in pictures, it has an HDMI output, you can live because the video tap?
Unfortunately, there is no real information on what is HDMI output, but it is feared that this is a formatted output, is considered to be the 1080er signal here in the worst case, synonymous only when playing is applied.
Maybe yes, Jan can we give more info if he has the Camera.
Antwort von Monsta:
At Canon, there have been recent original clips of "Reverie" for download:
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2127
On my 2,4 Ghz iMac bucking the H.264 clips quite nicely (data rate of around 40 Mbit / s), they've converted it into ProRes.
Antwort von Autor:
The maker of Reverie has a blog entry in which he collects comments to Canon to convince them that you have a 24fps or 25fps mode should integrate mode.
There are some synonymous comments gathered
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/26/original-raw-clips-from-reverie-now-available-for-download/#comments
Antwort von danrec:
Hello,
I'm here in the forum, but generally synonymous, a newcomer, and playing with the thought me a digital camera with HD video function zuzulegen.
My question in this round would be whether there is the possibility an external audio recorder like lightning on the slide to sync because audio-in, it seems not yet to give, and the sound quality is like in the D90 only mono, and probably will be a non-synonymous stool from tear -
would be great if someone has an idea about this.
viele grüße,
daniel
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
for Nikon D 90 would probably a lot of users who value good sound to create a sound recording audio recorder to use. I've never done with video cameras. A part of the user here is depending on the recorder, but quite satisfied. Maybe logs here and a user, with the external audio recording devices.
The Canon will be a part of their users probably 3.5 mm stereo jack microphone input use, but I can only test if I had given the Camera (November 2008).
VG
Jan
Antwort von dvcut:
We work and recommend Zoom products. The biggest offer users at Thomann.
http://www.thomann.de/de/zoom_h4.htm
Antwort von danrec:
Hello,
this is so fast here in the forum, many thanks already for the answer.
but how do I get for example the zoom synchroniesiert-recorder I know of my minidisc recorder that it will have a sync input, in order to start it remotely, I know the camera, but no such a signal outputs, so the idea is on the blitz sleigh s.ein external recording device.
Probably it will be in future hybrid devices, the two worlds, and photographic film (and therefore synonymous audio) link is only one in the next time, probably to be self dependent solutions, one in which the worlds of high-quality camera and HD video associate miteeinander.
maybe it could be such a remote control with two outputs be?:
http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Panasonic-Zubehoer/Ownuser-CP-001-Ausloeser-Zusatzkabel-fuer-DX-SIR-Panasonic-Lumix-FZ-50-FZ-30-etc-wie-DMW-RS1::944.html
viele grüße,
daniel
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) But how do I get for example the zoom recorder synchroniesiert (...)
Stone is the only way! Incidentally, you have a terrible spelling. Before sending a correction would be read to you more than appropriate. Large-and sensitive!
Antwort von danrec:
(...) But how do I get for example the zoom recorder synchroniesiert (...)
Stone is the only way! Incidentally, you have a terrible spelling. Before sending a correction would be read to you more than appropriate. Large-and sensitive!
... I currently work for a British company,
Therefore, I looked at the large-and lowercase quit ... I hope it is as synonymous ...
to flap: so far, I have video projects ever realized-alone
that is, well then press both buttons simultaneously, and the rest in
schnitt sync ... but have been seen in television productions where the lips do not move synchronously to the ton, and a little before Jitter zb interviews in this art and, to make.
for now but I think makes the purchase of high-quality bridge camera with hd feature for the next time quite sensible, because my own movies with soundtracks backing.
regards,
daniel
Antwort von PowerMac:
Then the camera discussed here but surely the worst choice you have. You get so full of the Wobbling-Effect and bad sound. Lieber a Canon XH A1.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Daniel
.. I am currently working for a British company,
Therefore, I looked at the large-and lowercase quit ... I hope it is as synonymous ...
.. You could then the "I" but consistently write great synonymous.
:-)
Antwort von kiteschlampe:
Quick question in between: a white definitely, as with the Live View photography with the controls looks like?
Effects on the Canon website to find nothing.
Thanks and greetings Chris
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Yes - works like LiveView with the other models ... So Scharf points to monitor and manually look. Auto Focus is very time-related delays.
Live View may in some good shots (macro panoramic passport photo) .... but recommend an angle viewfinder with zoom factor ... especially for macro shots or panoramic lenses with different focus areas or really better to act.
Conclusion: In Live View, the "professional" discreetly refrain. A grid plate and / or angle viewfinder is better suited here.
Well, perhaps it would be one more thing to news photographers use because if you turn the display down könte while the camera on the crowd so as to still keep one or the other picture of celebrity to get. ;-) But who then photograph / work must have been in the navy should be hired as a U boat ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
PS. I test the function s.einer camera directly after 2 min off, only disturbed me, to shoot as a preview monitor so suitable as a car TFT connection in a 35 mm adapter to set the sharpness.
Antwort von iasi:
if you have a little in English. handbuch after reading, then we come to 3 interesting points:
1. during the video output is s.hdmi only offer a lower resolution (probably the display resolution) and not 1920x1080
2. the iso-value regulates the auto-camera - that is, a manual exposure setting is not possible
3. of AF during the video is not recommended
otherwise there are some videos in the net, but most are weak ... whether the new york or the Munich-bmx video ... constantly open to hide ... rotstichige or night shots ... or the extreme ww ... narative for movies, use something not so pushy ...
Unfortunately, you can based on the reduced and highly compressed videos not judge how it is now for the low-light quality is ordered ...
in any case, the 5d mark II is a very interesting part ...
let's see what RED s.13.nov. with the scarlet of the canon opposite.
Antwort von werner sternath:
they do not have to make sure that it will surely be a while before a video camera is fit
Yesterday I was canon d5 MARK2 and an SXiIS free video movies and have the following findings.
Canon D5 MARK2
1. the autofocus is must always be re angetippt and is not as functional camcorder in the long
2. in video mode, there is no image stabilization, it is virtually impossible with telecharger free hand to film
3. by the CMOS sensor is compared with a 3 cip sensor on the periphery farbreißen
4. the monitor is fixed, from the hips to film iist not possible
5. they need to film the fastest memory chip does nothing else
6. Mikcrofon is mono, but you can connect a stereo micro -
7. Aperture and Iso during the film can not be adjusted and will be auto selected
daraf but I must mention that the D5mark2 an excellent camera is brilliant, with possibilities of short sequences in super quality filming, and the beneficial use s.der objective consists of many, especially wide angle 14mm
quite different SX1IS with the 28-560 zoom
here works alongside an excellent camera
during filming of the autofocus, the bildstabilisaror, it has a swivel monitor, has mainly 2 stereo microphones built,
HDV filming and in good quality
werner Sternath
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Werner
Two short queries .... iasis guess you can confirm that during the recording only HDMI on the monitor screen, or refers to the reduced Resolutionauf on the Full and HDMI is then "reduced" 1920x1080?
The second question is "rage" so many examples around the internet, where the track is not synonymous of RS is to be seen ... how is your result in terms of RS?
Antwort von Jan:
1. the autofocus is must always be re angetippt and is not as functional camcorder in the long
2. in video mode, there is no image stabilization, it is virtually impossible with telecharger free hand to film
For 1 I see as synonymous, but again all the parameters through the menu
On 2 Even when using an IS Optics? I rather think not.
Soon I have the camera in the store and then I will immediately make Lowlightaufnahmen - am curious ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von werner sternath:
s.monitor source of eos5 MARK2 are only a 1920x1080 pixel, because the film at the Full 1920x1080 zusammengequetscht is
I speak only of film, The eos5 MARK2 is, of course, with 21 million pixel camera as beyond criticism, but who wants to always objective incl lightning around 4kg, and various Scenes miss.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Werner
I speak only of filming ..
It is clear to me that the question sought from synonymous.
Now would be only to clarify what a color it is, unless the codec decodes it is restored, which I do not really believe.
Is there someone at random to provide information?,
That's natural.
Can you say something to RS?
@ Jan,
if you have the camera, but please try both once Lenses (with old and new mechanical aperture without mechanical Aperture) The result in low-light and in terms of DoF would me very interested.
Antwort von werner sternath:
if you have a little in English. handbuch after reading, then we come to 3 interesting points:
1. during the video output is s.hdmi only offer a lower resolution (probably the display resolution) and not 1920x1080
2. the iso-value regulates the auto-camera - that is, a manual exposure setting is not possible
3. of AF during the video is not recommended
otherwise there are some videos in the net, but most are weak ... whether the new york or the Munich-bmx video ... constantly open to hide ... rotstichige or night shots ... or the extreme ww ... narative for movies, use something not so pushy ...
Unfortunately, you can based on the reduced and highly compressed videos not judge how it is now for the low-light quality is ordered ...
in any case, the 5d mark II is a very interesting part ...
let's see what RED s.13.nov. with the scarlet of the canon opposite.
no s.ausgang are 1920x1080 pixels and pixels not monitor
Antwort von werner sternath:
@ Werner
Two short queries .... iasis guess you can confirm that during the recording only HDMI on the monitor screen, or refers to the reduced Resolutionauf on the Full and HDMI is then "reduced" 1920x1080?
The second question is "rage" so many examples around the internet, where the track is not synonymous of RS is to be seen ... how is your result in terms of RS?
s.hdmi output is dezitiert I could convince myself 1920x1080 pixel
greetings werner
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ... SX1IS filming HDV ...
HDV is a well-defined format, with the SX1IS has nothing to do: They take their videos of the highest quality level in the so-called "FullHD" with 1920x1080 pixels and at 30p.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von werner sternath:
... ... SX1IS filming HDV ...
HDV is a well-defined format, with the SX1IS has nothing to do: They take their videos of the highest quality level in the so-called "FullHD" with 1920x1080 pixels and at 30p.
Gruß Bernd E.
and exactly what they can
Antwort von Jan:
@ WoWu - since I must first look, what about older lenses with me in the store are. Many L Lenses, I have not synonymous anymore - schluchz
But the Camera is ordered.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Lenses (with old and new mechanical aperture without mechanical aperture) ...
If I understand, new Canon lenses no longer have a mechanical aperture? If the surprisingly so in fact would be: How will they regulate the light?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
From Nikon D 200 (synonymous D 300), there is an aperture donors, the aperture is wider.
Now you have me, when I know that the Canon did not know whether the model and s.welchem is synonymous.
For Nikon, as I said sD 200 & D 300, D 90 yet.
VG
Jan
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Bernd ..
.... by partial and multiple readout of the CMOS (6-15 times during an image) and a subsequent addition in memory.
I think the MarkII has such features synonymous. (But not white, I)
This naturally has an impact on the synonymous DoF. However synonymous positive effect on the diffraction effects.
If you use but now Lenses with mechanical aperture, which in turn would have a significant impact on the noise behavior, unless you can switch off these features.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Donor aperture, the aperture is wider ...
If it is just about the shape of the aperture transmission between camera and lens, then I am already clear - there are indeed different methods for decades. WoWu but I had understood that the new optics real mechanical shutter slats no longer possess.
... by partial and multiple readout of the CMOS (6-15 times during an image) and a subsequent addition in the memory ...
You learn never made! But there pushing me to two further questions:
1. How will these lenses work s.Bodys that these multiple readout not dominate?
2. Which lenses are currently designed according to this procedure? I guess times that some professional lenses (yet?) Is not affected?
Danke schon mal for the enlightenment!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Bernd
Of course, the function is not restricted to certain Lenses, you can also use it while you open the lens aperture signals. Only it will not work if you have older Lenses, where the signaling is still mechanically.
The question is just, the MarkII is already such a function? The Lenses in these cameras are due to the elimination of the mechanical aperture considerably cheaper to build, according to which the industry is always longs ... Problem is still present, that the method only works to 133 lux and then by an ND must be mitigated. (What Canon yes practice known in the DV20 is).
I would be just interested in how those functions (if they are part of the Mark II) for non-planned closed visors-behaved, so lenses with the camera-signaling do not understand and of hand will be blinded.
Because I'm me but for the "knowledge" such a camera is not "connected leg tie," I ask s.Jan.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Bernd ... @ ...
Thanks for the explanation! Because I honestly would not dream of it is that you can wegrationalisieren Aperture. Let's see when the first manufacturer change, while synonymous nor lenses costs - the trend is apparently back to the pinhole camera ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
To Aperture, I find it not a pity .... actually one of the worst compromises .... and with the ever-smaller sensors superfluous anyway, because you only have a single value with reasonably sharp images could generate ... So, since the industry can finally save s.richtigen spot .... the partial aperture synonymous produce results that really convince and the DoF is any future in camera processing done better and individually adjustable, DoF from the Optics is synonymous soon just what kind of nostalgic.
Oh, and the hole with the camera is no such a bad idea if the pictures are even better ...:-)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... To the Aperture, I find it not a pity ... in the ever-smaller sensors superfluous anyway ...
Well, we are talking specifically of DSLR and where the sensors are rather larger: The trend is now times of APS-C sensor to the Full-24x36mm. That being said I would be still interested in what Canon optics because now no longer have a mechanical aperture? Of the currently more than 70 copies may be available in any case - if the data on the Canon website vote - not one to be.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
OT:
S.alle question.
Who can explain to me why because ...
- Leica uses a CCD chip in the S2 (30 x 45 mm)
- Canon a CMOS chip (36 x 24 mm) used in the 5D Mark II
? Why does Canon on CMOS and CCD to Leica?
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Question time, please contact the development department itself. We do not want to speculate here ...
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Good then I should do, because I was not aware that such a CCD chip can provide good results, thought s.einer certain number MegaPixel it must be a CMOS.
Can we therefore assume that it is perhaps in the successors of the Canon XH and XL series continues CCD chips are installed, and not on CMOS is changed?
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von WoWu:
@ B. DeKid
CMOS chips have CCD chips to very significant benefits that affect the entire image processing significant impact.
(For now the RS-Call immediately to correct this ... it is synonymous with CMOS GS).
So I would not assume that a manufacturer of CMOS switches back to CCD. Some Manufacturer safely go until later on (C) MOS, depending of the requirements, but someday will be no way to go.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Thank you.
But please tell me what GS means the times I can read.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... please tell me what GS means ...
GS = "Global Shutter"
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Can we therefore assume that it is perhaps in the successors of the Canon XH and XL series continues CCD chips are installed, and not on CMOS is changed?
MfG
B. DeKid
That will happen with great certainty that the new CMOS Model 3 can be used. Canon would like to yes, the new models incorporate some new features, that is with the "slow read out" CCDs not possible. What exactly that is to be improved and what new components and there are to be used - is a big secret action.
If you look at resolution CCDs continue to use (my Canon but sources talk of CMOS), then the XH A 2 is not much better package than the familiar submit XH A 1, but rather as a re-zb XH A 1 s.
Spring 2009 is quite possible as the deadline.
Leica S 2 - I do not synonymous. Perhaps two reasons, Leica is not a company that sells cameras s.die mass. Rather a small but fine s.Stammkunden quantity. Then it is synonymous not so bad if the CCDs in the production cost more than CMOS, the camera is always higher - and not for the mass world as a Canon 5 D MK 2 determined.
Secondly, the model could be a not so fast performance need (I know the model too bad) so anti-noise filter is on the chip or other processor-intensive tasks. Leica's are rarely designed for speed, rather the best possible quality and yield clean signal processing.
VG
Jan
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Oh, ok, thank you Bernd. For since all abbreviations, na da muss man ja mal after asking ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von dvcut:
Canon is very aware of his anti-press to place.
Antwort von Jan:
I still think the spring of 2009, I say now the beginning of February. Possibly synonymous, but a few weeks later to large U.S. trade show like NAB 17-23 April 2009.
Very unwarscheinlich would not be a new model in 2009 - let's. Canon is currently on inspiration products, synonymous in the digicam field, there are new models, one of the Canon is not quite possible (for example, the baby blue & pink e 1).
VG
Jan
Antwort von dvcut:
@ jan
wait times the elections in the U.S. perhaps s.and is then synonymous quite quickly. On rumors is always a spark synonymous truth. The Cinema Redrockmicro DSLR bundle is supposed to be already in 5 days via FedEx shipping. We are very excited. Now only the EOS 5D Mark II and some accessories. The right software and a Suitable Project. But on the small house at the end of Nov. are hopefully all the new exhibits at last live to admire.
Antwort von Jan:
Would synonymous possible.
I have to contact s.and product managers (because of my profession) of the Company, as to what s.and seeps through. That is why I find the synonymous because what should go in the XH A 1, I had already synonymous with Slashcam 1 / 2 year before was posted - and they came really ....
Even the number 1 manager of Panasonic Consumer Camcorder (PH) was with me, then I had just completed a Panasonic before a customer "bad" and made me a little with him created (how embarrassing) - there are things ....
The MS 90 JVC knew you before time einger not yet synonymous, just as the release date of the new JVC Semiprofikamera.
Yes, right now, I get a lot of product, Canon was synonymous with - only the 5 D MK II does not - when is the last?
VG
Jan
Antwort von dvcut:
Hopefully you come in time for Christmas and hopefully we can go to the house at the end of November show. That every customer gets an immediate would certainly lied and utopian. At the beginning there is always the famous supply difficulties. You will be the supplicant in the Manufacturer and hope for an award. We have a lot of money s.Redrockmicro paid and we can now synonymous in the situation of the customers understand. When will we finally have a confirmation number and a packet when the packet is on our table. Finally, we want synonymous still turn a small advertisement. All are in the starting blocks.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... We have a lot of money s.Redrockmicro transferred ...
Have ye then "only" the DSLR Cinema Bundles in the program or it could be synonymous to deliver a matte alone?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von dvcut:
We have a synonymous Mattebox ordered, but the products are not intended for sale but for their own use and for demonstration purposes only. At the moment, the manufacturer is not interested s.einem multilevel marketing. Comparable with Red, synonymous but this can change quickly. We'll see.
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.554/.f?sc=2&category=864
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ... Mattebox to demo purposes ...
Ok, thanks for the info! Maybe yes then you have some times when a demo Mattebox favorable must ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Now the A & G XH 1 s because ......
DVCut - you well with your lagst (hint)!
I but with the name and the slightly enhanced XH A 1 s synonymous not bad.
Then certainly still a model the 2009th
VG
Jan
Antwort von werner sternath:
it will surely be a while before a video camera is fit
Yesterday I was canon d5 MARK2 and an SXiIS free video movies and have the following findings.
Canon D5 MARK2
1. the autofocus is must always be re angetippt and is not as functional camcorder in the long
2. in video mode, there is no image stabilization, it is virtually impossible with telecharger free hand to film
3. by the CMOS sensor is compared with a 3 cip sensor on the periphery farbreißen
4. the monitor is fixed, from the hips to film iist not possible
5. they need to film the fastest memory chip does nothing else
6. Mikcrofon is mono, but you can connect a stereo micro -
7. Aperture and Iso during the film can not be adjusted and will be auto selected
daraf but I must mention that the D5mark2 an excellent camera is brilliant, with possibilities of short sequences in super quality filming, and the beneficial use s.der objective consists of many, especially wide angle 14mm
quite different SX1IS with the 28-560 zoom
here works alongside an excellent camera
during filming of the autofocus, the bildstabilisaror, it has a swivel monitor, has mainly 2 stereo microphones built,
HDV filming and in good quality
werner Sternath [/ quote]
Antwort von iasi:
to your point 7, I would not disturb anything.
this diktat is automatic but quite annoying.
Antwort von iasi:
but when they come now - the markII?
I had read somewhere that it is the beginning of nov. so far should be - but then was not so.
I'm already very interested.
Antwort von WoWu:
Come here synonymous nor what?
Antwort von WoWu:
Front
Antwort von dvcut:
You are all invited and we want to deliver the first copies s.unsere regulars early December. Now comes the bad news when I'm not pretending everything we are sold out until Christmas.
http://www.videoaktiv.de/200809282036/News/Praxis/DVcut-fragt-Sterben-Camcorders-kunftig-aus.html
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks WoWu, a new G model with 4 / 3 "sensor and AVCHD (Panasonic, hopefully not the old familiar profile ...)
VG
Jan
