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Premiere Pro 2 - and half DV export problems - flickering screen



Frage von Gothmoth:
Dezember 2006

Hi,

s.der time as you can see in my postings, I am desperate.
it is 3 clock and I sit for 2 days with a short interruption in front of my new Premiere Pro 2 and my handycam.
hab gegoogelt to me the eyes are rausgefallen.
many of the same problem but no solution ......

I transfer the video data of my cam via firewire on the pc.

this happens in DV1 or by converting the same into the mpeg2 format.

in the premiere, I would then cut, add titles, crossfades do nothing special. synonymous as far as no problem.

but now I will mal ein mpeg2 movie to DV format.
mpeg2 source of data:

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as circled in red are mpeg2 with LOWER field first.

the setting in premiere then see this:

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synonymous for export, I choose LOWER HALBILDER.

and it shows me as the GSpot info for the export file to DV:

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suddenly there are TOP FRAMES FIRST ... So UPPER fields.
how can that be? where I could source and export options as LOWER HALBILDER have.

I burn this file with Ulead MovieFactory 5 or PREMIERE on DVD then it flickers movements.
the DV format, I see it flicker even on the PC monitor, not only on the TV set.

the same problem I have with the output in MPEG2 only not quite so bad. Although this is the way you want LOWER HALBILDER in GSpot to read. but on DVD it flickers movements still.
on the PC is nothing like this to see only on TV.

the settings for MPEG2 export:

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do I convert the file from PREMIERE edited in MPEG 2 and deinterlace the video then the issue with Ulead DVD PREMIERE and perfect.
but it is not, of course. I do not want to deinterlace if it is not necessary.

the flicker is not related to the whole building.
for example when a person moves up and then it looks as if they are fast and zückbewegt. is difficult to describe. so as to superimpose several images s.dieser stelle.
I'm pretty sure this is a problem is interlace.
but how do I fix it?

what's wrong because?
I'm not a complete newbie but not a halt synonymous experte.

I just want my videos in DV format or MPEG2 format and edit as a DV or MPEG2 exporting.
I work not even with divx or xvid or other non-dvd compliant format because the problem I could still understand.

how can something so go into the trousers at the price for the software? : (

please help me .... Kärt me where the error lies.

thank you!



Antwort von nico:

The whole trouble, you can avoid if you always first in everything DV editing and then convert to mpeg2.



Antwort von BenMan999:

hi, thanks for the reply but please read again my contribution exactly. :)

I transferred in DV format or MPEG2, cut, etc. in premiere and then export as a DV or MPEG2.

with the mpeg2 as the only source was thought of as such.
the same problem, I have DV synonymous if I had a source.








Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

if you are recording from the DV camcorder capture, did you actually "lower field first"? - I ask because the hardware requires synonymous can be otherwise.

The video card in my PC makes from DV, for example, "upper field first". Capture I have another Firewire interface outside Matroxkarte, then I have "lower field first". MPEG2 in turn can be both, but must be properly labeled.



Antwort von grovel:

oha, that's funny. Use no premiere. But verifiable times, as the premiere import files handled. You can certainly somewhere define (determine) whether Premiere thinks that the original material to Bottom Field First material or not.
Synonymous already check whether the project settings are correct. Not only when you export BFF, because if the project is TFF, it is twice, if you have a BFF export demand.

(All this said, however, do not understand why the exported files are TFF. Evt. Times DV-AVI Type 1 export?)

SeeYa Groveler



Antwort von Gothmoth:

hi

So the DV and MPEG files I capture of the camera are lower fields. I have with GSpot and graphedit checked.

the targets for my projects are DV-PAL premiere of, that is synonymous lower field first:

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I understand why not synonymous premiere export elegant setting that I simply ignored? what then is the premiere because if they are ignored?

when exporting, I can not explicitly set DV1 .... premiere offers me only DV PAL, DV PAL (24) and DV-NTSC to.

thx for your reply!



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Why choose standard 32kHz?
I accept either standard 48kHz (4:3) or widescreen 48kHz if it is anamorphic 16:9 material.
Otherwise have no problems with P-Pro 2.0 to correctly format the material to process, can be synonymous not help and in the crystal ball, I see no longer synonymous ...



Antwort von BenMan999:

No idea where that is exactly the error - but why turn you Halbbildfolge not easy for the output to? Or, failing in the finished mpeg2 tools with which to implement Halbbildflag - such as older versions of restream?

If the fault simply lies in the Halbbildfolge is a slight correction - synonymous wenns remain unsatisfactory mag, where the error occurs.



Antwort von Gothmoth:

So if I capture DV with adobe and then the further process is ok. at least something.

But if I with the premiere aufgezeichente DV file with TMPGen or premiere in mpeg2 converter with premiere and then edit and burn to DVD ... it flickers again.

now does not say "then edit it all in adobe. ;)
material is of the third, known as the mpeg2 is simply not possible. and would / should be so maybe synonymous in his own projects.

when converted with TMPGen I have scrupulously respected the drauf
DVD standard and LOWER HALBILDER enabled.
IF it does not give such a problem with adobe material to edit and burn to DVD!



Antwort von Markus:

"Gothmoth" wrote:
But if I with the premiere aufgezeichente DV file with TMPGen or premiere in mpeg2 converter with premiere and then edit and burn to DVD ... it flickers again.

I have now (not only) cited above workflow: first edit, then convert to MPEG2. Not vice versa.

The question is whether the material you synonymous as a DV-AVI could get? For whatever reason, it is MPEG2? There must be someone but the work done that is to compress everything?



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

[quote = "Mark"]
"Gothmoth" wrote:
I have now (not only) cited above workflow: first edit, then convert to MPEG2. Not vice versa.

The question is whether the material you synonymous as a DV-AVI could get? For whatever reason, it is MPEG2? There must be someone but the work done that is to compress everything?


synonymous, as I already wrote above, it is possible but not everything as DV material to get. much footage than what is used now as a yes mpeg snippets before.




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