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Premiere Pro 2.0 und HDV

Premiere Pro 2.0 and HDV



Frage von pflip:
Dezember 2006

Servus,

I want my next project in HDV rotate. Now my question: I have Premiere Pro 2.0, because I can easily edit HDV material, or do I need to convert the material in advance?
My system: Intel Core 2 Extreme 2x 2.93 GHz, 2 gigabytes of RAM and hard disk properly.

THX



Antwort von blaujanina:

no problem, project settings to HDV settings, record and edit. gruss blaujanina



Antwort von david.fejzuli:

"blaujanina" wrote:
no problem, project settings to HDV settings, record and edit. gruss blaujanina


cool thanks, there was something of intermediate codec etc. blablabla in the head!








Antwort von Freeskier:

Does the same synonymous with Adobe Premiere 1.5?



Antwort von woge:

"blaujanina" wrote:
no problem, project settings to HDV settings, record and edit. gruss blaujanina

But what comes next? After the edit because the remains on the disk? Back on FW is not directly on DVD and is not synonymous.
Wolfgang



Antwort von Wiro:

"Freeskier" wrote:
Does the same synonymous with Adobe Premiere 1.5?

No problem, upgrade to version 1.5.1, project settings to HDV settings, record and edit.
Gruss Wiro



Antwort von david.fejzuli:

"surge" wrote:
After the process remains as on the plate? Back on FW is not directly on DVD and is not synonymous.
Wolfgang


why does it not have firewire back up band?



Antwort von nightworker:

This is a video forum where the user is not yet as far as the program is to dominate, the operator shall then questioningly pleasurably through the wide world!



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote:
But what comes next? After the edit because the remains on the disk? Back on FW is not directly on DVD and is not synonymous.
Wolfgang


- It is synonymous to the tape back, of course ...
- It's synonymous to a DVD ...



Antwort von blaujanina:

yes, I give the film to the band back and throw him over a HDV beamer s.die wall, works great and it's razor sharp shots.
gruss blaujanina



Antwort von wolfgang:

"Bruno Peter" wrote:

- It is synonymous to the tape back, of course ...
- It's synonymous to a DVD ...


Why should not synonymous go? This can present any NLE 100 euros.

And you could clearly synonymous in APP 2 unchanged with the optional - ie in addition to buying - Cineform Intermediate work. However, Adobe is now synonymous more and more the way to the native interface, if I made the distance correctly interpret.

In a 2-core system, the native interface but no longer be a problem - although APP unchanged value on the right graphics cards which may be relevant for real-time capabilities to be addressed.

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/search_result.html?manuSearchVar=1&modelSearchVar=0&supportSearchVar=0&brand=&dataFormat=&version=2.0&device=graphic&format =



Antwort von nightworker:

Link for the times I am not

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=83846

funny somehow the values ...








Antwort von woge:

THANKS synonymous for the nice tips
but with me coming back again no signal on the Cam
Canon XH 1A. After recording, cutting, etc. is the FW
Cable is still off on the Cam and I see in DV but no Picture.
I will now look at the beginners look
Wolfgang



Antwort von r.p. television:

Maybe you're the wrong assumption that Premiere 2.0 HDV DV as before directly from the timeline will play. This is synonymous but after calculating the effects are not. But you need extra expensive hardware.
If you cut your finished movie back to tape you have to want to have when you export to tape issue go. It must be the camcorder to all cases asked to HDV (no auto setting), or detects the first HDV camcorder not a recorder.
And on DVD, you can export directly synonymous. Did for me to work properly.



Antwort von Axel:

"surge" wrote:
THANKS synonymous for the nice tips
but with me coming back again no signal on the Cam
Canon XH 1A. After recording, cutting, etc. is the FW
Cable is still off on the Cam and I see in DV but no Picture.
I will now look at the beginners look
Wolfgang


It must be pretty much be rendered. Unlike DV camera rewinds the same happening to the material incorporated. It lasts. In extreme cases, hours. Xavier Naidoo sings it in his new song: Only we must be patient, then it does not last long ...



Antwort von woge:

Thank you!
Now it's
THANKS for the tips and I will now have to worry
Good for XL1S DV behalten.Was to benefit me the good HDV XH A1
if only the signal of HDV in DV down numeracy needs
just because I submit a DVD muß.Auch I like it not not even
more an SVHS signal from the XH A1 Sports Photographer kommt.Ich am
and therefore do not very much video and am only occasionally
therefore synonymous Photoshop expert and not so familiar in Premiere pro.
Of course I know that I XHA1 synonymous in the computer but can switch
with the Augängen I can not begin so much as with the XL 1s
Wolfgang



Antwort von mw:

"rp television" wrote:
Maybe you're the wrong assumption that Premiere 2.0 HDV DV as before directly from the timeline will play. This is synonymous but after calculating the effects are not.


because why not? This is done apart from me still hundreds of thousands around the world, where only the fairy tale come through Premiere and HD come from?



Antwort von woge:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"rp television" wrote:
Maybe you're the wrong assumption that Premiere 2.0 HDV DV as before directly from the timeline will play. This is synonymous but after calculating the effects are not.


because why not? This is done apart from me still hundreds of thousands around the world, where only the fairy tale come through Premiere and HD come from?

Then it is probably s.der Canon and you are surely Sony



Antwort von r.p. television:

@ guest:

If you like off directly from the timeline works, do you have any additional hardware. Among directly off I understand that during the out-and herrangieren in the timeline HDV Picture s.Rekorder tribunal. That is not the case.
But you can (and I think that my test DU) on Export Volume and issue the working section of the timeline export.
But that just takes and is not in real time.
A project with many overlays, filters etc. can be a video length of 20 minutes for several hours to convert need.

@ wave:
I have both Canon is synonymous Sony. Both cameras does not.
If you put your Canon really want to get rid of (which I will not seriously want to guess), register with me at rptelevision@web.de.
I would be interested.



Antwort von Jörg:

Hi,
maybe I'll understand everything wrong;
I have an export of nochnie any format of the timeline in real time took place, where effects on the clips were, tempo changes, which I know has been used:
it was always rendered before export, which could, depending on the length Effect and Film has always been hours, or how or what?



Antwort von r.p. television:

@ jörg:

So it should be in DV in Premiere 2.0. work. Even Effects appear SINGLE WAY s.Schnittpunkt. However, depending on the computational effort a few seconds, until the individual frame via Firewire s.TV mapped. After calculating the individual preview files, but should the timeline smoothly playable.
Applies only for DV.
For HDV, the only after export to tape.








Antwort von wolfgang:

So make appropriate vorrausgesetzt processors (4-core but synonymous overclocked Conroe 6600), at least from some NLEs output in nearly real time possible. And of course there will be rendered.



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote:
For HDV, the only after export to tape.


Ich hau mich weg ...



Antwort von almosely:

Yes, this is quite a nonsense ...



Antwort von almosely:

"Bruno Peter" wrote:
Quote:
For HDV, the only after export to tape.


Ich hau mich weg ...


So now it's interesting. Either you hide your load or you have a great premiere.

The fact is:
Even when you're in a world premiere at HDV export to tape clicked, will only render the stream, and then cached on the HDV tape output.
It may be doing this for the people after an operation ausssieht fakt but it is the various processes in order.

Greeting

Pit



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote:
So now it's interesting.


What is now interesting?



Antwort von r.p. television:

Exactly! So I said it. The export to tape is, of course, with prior computing power (and which may, depending on the filter) time.

I do not know what others think of mischief ....
I think my general average when playing on a monitor via DVI or D-SUB. But this is something quite different.
Playback on a preview monitor will work, of course (most of the time) in real time. But never directly via firewire as HDV signal! I stress HDV SIGNAL!
If this should work with whom, if he had a super-duper-ZUSAZHARDWARE, of which I have not heard.

So do not talk nonsense of coarse if you do not just read, what we are talking about.



Antwort von almosely:

"rp television wrote:

After calculating the individual preview files, but should the timeline smoothly playable.
Applies only for DV.
For HDV, the only after export to tape.


It can not be the case that the timeline I only can play smooth after I use the HDV material was exported to tape. What gives? Sufficient computing power and the right graphics cards vorrausgesetzt, one has but synonymous with APP corresponding preview properties directly from the timeline out, and on the internal preview window, or with the appropriate hardware to an external preview monitor.

A real-time preview of firewire is not there yet - because although the HDV camcorder in HDV, but the signal does not appear to have component or HDMI with full HD resolution forwarding. This is what we at SD camcorder with DV input had played so far, therefore, apparently not. High could be perhaps a SD signal from the camcorder tap, but that is for HD (V) cut completely useless because it is not sufficient any blurring exactly would recognize.

Either use special hardware, the APP can respond to a high-resolution preview of an HD monitor to get (Matrox RT for example, or as synonymous maps of DeckLink etc.). Or you can elect a full-HD monitor, and pulls the preview window to sufficient size. Perhaps there are other ways synonymous on graphics cards, but I know too little.



Antwort von almosely:

It still went here to export to the tape and not the preview.

And, no HDV editing system in the world has an HDV Picture on the Firewire output during the cut, as is usual in DV. Even with no additional hardware super duper!



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Anonymous" wrote:
(...)
A real-time preview of firewire is not there yet - because although the HDV camcorder in HDV, but the signal does not appear to have component or HDMI with full HD resolution forwarding. (...)


Wrong. Only alone, because no computer in the world, a compliant GOP MPEG-2 in real time for the entire timeline how.








Antwort von r.p. television:

Right!
To complete a project or the default workspace as HDV stream output, you must first structure the GOP (Group of Pictures) or rebuild the individual frames in the structure re-classified.
The preview is not a real s.Monitor HDV signal. For a good calculator can be even without any additional hardware on a monitor the timeline in real time (bzw.nach sophisticated rendering effects) "durchscrubben".
You must be synonymous with the preview window does not fully unravel. If you (usually) in the dual-monitor mode is working, can be seen in the playback settings to the second monitor fullscreen lamp.

Does not change the truth that the final output to HDV tape with a lengthy computational process.
And that was it, ultimately to the questioner, because he wanted his material zurückexportieren.

And the statement that an HDV camcorder or recorder via firewire incoming HDV signal via component or HDMI signal go further, it is really untrue, because my HDV Recorder of SONY is very well the incoming signals are converted next.

PS: Here's a valuable tip.
On long complicated projects running even with 4 GB physical RAM and virtual memory properly the memory is full.
The option to export to tape works then sometimes only with no drop-outs, if you have the folder to delete the preview files.
Then restart the computer and when you start the project on "preview files skipped" go. Then longer timelines can be rendered.




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