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Frage von Baldur:


Hi,
I am a registered user today since this forum, but have read various articles here longer, but my problem is unfortunately not yet been treated.
I have with the SonyHdr-SR7 for a year as vacation and hobby Filmer good experience and made me synonymous with the handling of the AVCHD footage using Vegas 7 (was the purchase of this camera) is found to cope well. But this year it will go to higher regions, ie well over 3000m, as the threshold for use of the aforementioned camera have been declared. (because of problems with distance from the write head to the hard drive with less air pressure)
It would be very nice and helpful if anyone of you could tell which of the similar models (eg Canon HV100 or a model of Panasonic or any other model of Sony, which is all in the AVCHD format) are not subject to this restriction.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Baldur

Take but a part that writes to SD card ....

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

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I had already synonymous times after making of the series s compatriots. I would be synonymous Cams Intressieren which the guys use, if you regard the Cams find out what you like I would be grateful to post it here. Kuck but afterwards I still synonymous times. Because to find the topic very interesting.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Baldur:

Hi and thanks for the quick posts.
The recording on SD or SDHC cards seems at the moment the only alternative, if you do not return back to DV tape wishes.
I can only not with the idea, without Viewfinder filming. Somehow I did not display the sense of scenic shooting and get the motivation is not as out as with viewfinders.
Is Full HD camcorder in the AVCHD format to SD (HC)-cards and even viewfinders are equipped with?

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Antwort von Streamer:

I want so do not worry, but a friend had two / three years times the problem with air bubbles in the Optics s.4000m - if I remember rightly, it was a great DV Cam. The problem could be synonymous with cameras with SD cards occur.

Streamer.

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Antwort von Baldur:

Hi,
since some time in the scene so the new camcorder of Panasonic HDC-SD100 and HDC-HD100 for the beginning of September, according to the description so have viewfinders and on SD (HC) cards can absorb. I need the device but at the end of August. Alternatively, the idea came to me, possibly the Hybrid Model of Sony, the HDR-SR11E avoid, because the synonymous directly onto Memory Stick recording. In the description, however, that over the 3000 m Height Camera will not turn, because of the danger of a hard-defect. Is this possible if we stick to filming?
Can anyone say whether the hard drive at the turn, ie in the standby mode, synonymous is endangered?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Well, the limitations of hard disks you have with all the devices are not, do not have hard disks. Like the Canon HF100.

Hybrid devices use since nix - synonymous if there are plates inside.

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Antwort von domain:

If the hybrid camcorder hard drive of flash memory to be switched, then the hard drive synonymous in greater heights no harm, unless they are running.
The Schreiblesekopf is located at an inactive hard drive, in principle, a protected parking place, where nothing can happen. Only in operation it may be flying at the heads to an ev Anreiber come when the air cushion under the Schreiblesekopf is too thin.

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Antwort von WoWu:

What are you talking about heights because if you say "well above 3000 meters?
Are they between 3000 and 4000 meters, or is the higher, because we regularly above 3000 meters of work (our location is approx. 2600 m high) ... and yet so far with single HD None had worse ...
But of course if you want to rotate in 8000m, the world will probably be quite different.

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Antwort von motiongroup:

It is synonymous only a recommendation it could be ....

It is also dependent on the air of the place is not always the same .. ergoogle the times ...
Everest, Mauna Kea .... Mauna Kea by the rotation of the earth to the highest point of the world (10205Meter) which provides.
Canon HG10 was s.Kilemandscharo 5896 m (Kilemanscharo) are used.
Similarly, the HDReihe of ... the JVC JVC turns per sensor in the HDOFF mode.

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Antwort von kuhea:

"Streamer" wrote: I want so do not worry, but a friend had two / three years times the problem with air bubbles in the Optics s.4000m - if I remember rightly, it was a great DV Cam. The problem could be synonymous with cameras with SD cards occur.
Streamer.


Hello,

to this problem (with my old Canon) is even mentioned in the instructions, for example. in the airplane baggage compartment, where no pressure is.

That's when the optical Image Stabilization fluid-filled lenses contains compensation. There will then form bubbles, which 'allegedly' after some time (or at normal atmospheric pressure) then disappear.

Greeting Kuhea

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Antwort von Markus73:

"motion group" wrote: Mauna Kea by the rotation of the earth to the highest point of the world (10205Meter) which provides.

Not by the rotation, but the fact that he stands in the water and you begin to measure s.Meeresgrund, there are of 10205 meters. For the above prevailing atmospheric pressure, this altitude is not relevant.

The differences which actually exist, are created by the not exactly spherical earth, which resembles more of a potato.

Regards,
Markus

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Antwort von WoWu:

[list] kuhea

Quote: eg. in the airplane baggage compartment, where no pressure is.
There are no machines in passenger cargo area without pressure.
Even Frachmaschinen are equipped with pressure. [/ List: u: 52e50ffaf1]

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Antwort von motiongroup:

NOP Markus is not true, the earth is characterized by rotation of the earth s.dem pooling flat and the diameter of the Earth is s.der near the equator s.größten. The additional minor deviations still have many other influences ... ergoogle something .. (tides, magnetic field, sun in the day and year, etc. ..) will be stale for us only the sea for a precise statement made ...
And another thing, the Height is synonymous only if mainly for the air crucial ... play it synonymous with other factors.

@ kuhea I know I know the part of the JVC instructions ..

I have no problems during the flight and so had the Cam my friend had s.Ortler under adverse conditions synonymous no problems. That was only 3905 meters but still.

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Antwort von domain:

The warning limit for a possible hard drive damage anyway 3000m is ridiculous and has to ensure legal backgrounds.
Do you think that in La Paz with a population of 850,000 to nearly 4000 m above sea level, etc. with no PC hard to use?
So to 4000 and still synonymous, there is a lot about with almost 100% certainty no particular problems

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Antwort von kuhea:

"WoWu" wrote: [list]

Quote: eg. in the airplane baggage compartment, where no pressure is.
There are no machines in passenger cargo area without pressure.
Even Frachmaschinen are equipped with pressure. [/ list: u: a64b789d6f]


Hello Wolfgagg,

Note that I've literally in the Canon manual to read. It should be synonymous only demonstrate that synonymous "non-climbers" their camera without wide times "thin air" to suspend, with appropriate consequences.

Your Argumet agrees with the pressure, if it is the usual today "Jet's" acts.
But all the smaller machines have sowas not. And synonymous to fly higher than 3000 m, even create these gliders Height. And in the military machine is the cargo compartment synonymous with no pressure. And they go to "Y-Tours" very often used.

Greeting Kuhea

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Antwort von Markus73:

"motion group" wrote: NOP Markus is not true, the earth is characterized by rotation of the earth s.dem pooling flat and the diameter of the Earth is s.der near the equator s.größten.

That's true and I have never disputed, but with the above 10,205 feet has nothing to do, because the result from measurement of the seafloor to the summit, see eg Wikipedia.

The Effect of you said you would notice if the distance between the summit of a mountain would Erdmittelpunkt measure.

Regards,
Markus

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Antwort von motiongroup:

Since you have absolutely right but Mark and the Mauna Kea is the highest peak from the center gemmessen .... but no comparison to Olympos Moons ... that would be what with nearly 26km ... gggg *

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Antwort von Markus73:

"motion group" wrote: Since you have absolutely right but Mark and the Mauna Kea is the highest peak from the center gemmessen ....

Ok, so I give you formulated fully right :-)

Quote: but no comparison to Olympos Moons ... that would be what with nearly 26km ... gggg *
And the lies on Mars, I think, because we would have with our hard disks are still other problems ;-)

And at times be a bit of return relating to:
I think not synonymous, that the height issue too hard to be taken seriously. I'm just one of South America trip back (the highest station: s.Titicacasee Puno, Peru, 3800 m). The usual PCs did not give the impression as if there höhentaugliche any special form of hard disks installed would have been quite the contrary ...

Regards,
Markus

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Antwort von motiongroup:

Quote: And the lies on Mars, I think, because we would have with our hard disks are still other problems ;-)

What test would ..* ggg ...

But relating back to, I think no because synonymous in the direction that there are no problems but we will not know what a mountain he will embark on ...

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Kuhea

That is absolutely right, it was just me drum that luggage should be no pressure ...
Otherwise, I have even times with the glider launch Superelevation 6000m (1800m) in the shaft and had flown with Camera, in which no "burst Lens" (but without hard drive) but I think the spook is not synonymous with the hard disks. However, it has approved UV problems ...
The distance between the heads of the plate is mechanically fixed and already has with little external pressure to do ...
But as we see once again synonymous what Canon (and others of course synonymous Manufacturer) for a crap in their descriptions offer.
The best straight in the bin.

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Antwort von domain:

"WoWu" wrote:
The distance between the heads of the plate is mechanically fixed and already has with little external pressure to do ..


Because what has changed in recent years?

"With a hard drive, the head of the rotation to take on an air cushion. It speaks of the fly. The associated flying height can now be subject to 3 nanometers. The head with one disk is the result of data loss, a head-crash happened. The resulting micro-particles cause more collisions. Only an immediate shutdown of the hard drive can further prevent data loss. "

To my knowledge, is the distance from the head to the rotating disk is not mechanically fixed. He glides like an air boat on a solid surface

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Antwort von cebros:

Most hard disks (-camcorder), which for 3000 meters are specified, are likely synonymous 4000 meters survive. For 5000 or more, would I use, but serious about ...

There is incidentally mentioned plates, for altitudes of 5,000 meters spezifizeirt are - the only camcorder manufacturer probably for cost reasons, no such construction.

Example:

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Antwort von domain:

On certain levels all hard disks fail, depending on the model, that is clear.
But fear that they will thereby be broken you do not have to, because the position Kopfarretiermechanismus the park is also only through the air umherwirbelnde released and when the hurricane due to the low air pressure is too weak, then the head does not even released.
So no fear of the Height. The worst that can happen ie a is that the hard drive in this Height does not work anymore, but a few hundred meters deeper then already.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Domain

Quote: Because what has changed in recent years?
No, but after the top is a maximum, fixed mechanical stop, lest the heads constantly rushing to the top Platter ... synonymous with movement (acceleration) of the plate.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Would it make sense in the Camera in a UW housing bandwagon?

I have times when snow protection reasons, the little camcorder in a sport UW Housing Act of Sony had.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von domain:

Would even make sense if you are already in deeper Camera climes would include.
Particular style, it would still work if you are in the Height with mask film would.

(Habe times with my optical mask must go home because I had lost the normal)

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Antwort von Baldur:

Hi,

over the weekend because I was traveling today, I could only wish to see you and of course for the many contributions.
Regarding the question raised, I can say that in the Andes at ca.5000 m Height proceed.
Unfortunately, I have yet to know whether the SonyHDR-SR11E and when switched to Choice of recording media, the hard drive with auto response or in the choice of the memory sticks in peace can. Maybe you know someone that vonn.
On the other proposal, the Canon HF100, I can only say that it is due to the lack of viewfinder, so far I do not come into question. Viewfinder than a pure flash memory Cam is just the new Panasonic HDC-SD100 have.

Many Grßsse s.Alle

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Antwort von domain:

Do not think about the Height. Even if the hard drive no longer work, it will be so far from being broken and you are so synonymous nor an alternative.

How very stupid of the developers are hard to do so synonymous that they ruin the data sets of over 5000 m would allow.
On the contrary, the hard drive is protected against the Height and just does not work anymore, but that is no data loss, but not synonymous storage possible

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Antwort von Baldur:

Hi,
I am here today after the first test report on the new Panasonic HDC-HS100 and read them on your well-meaning trusting insurance, I will now probably take SonyHDR-SR11. Last criterion against the Panasonic is for me the problem of the post, because I Vegas Pro 8.0b use of what the Panasonic created AVCHD format is not yet compatible to be.
Although I still have one week to decide, but if there are no fundamentally new findings are, I would stick with Sony.
I will you on any case my experience to write when I'm back in the country.
Until then, thanks again s.alle.

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Antwort von Baldur:

Hi, I am there again, if synonymous with delay.
First the good news. Although I could "only" a SonyHdr-SR7E s.Stelle the end of August SR11 planned to take, but it has up to 5100 m Height no problems. (later, I was not synonymous)
Unfortunately, it is then in the Amazon with a trip several days in the rainforest, where literally three days of continuous rain, despite careful handling with waterproof protective film has become so wet that they alone of more than is expected, and after a fall is never again allowed.
At home I have it at the end of November in a service workshop and sent to my joy with intact, fully functional data obtained on the 75%-filled hard drive recovered, so that I now finally with the video editing Vegas8 can begin.
So as I said, very robust and synonymous over 5000 m höhentauglich.

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