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Externes Mic für die Canon XH-A1

External mic for the Canon XH-A1



Frage von BananaDragon:
Juli 2007

After the search, no clear hits reached, I ask here and direct:

Which external mic (~ 200 ¬) you can find me, for the XH-A1 recommend? I've heard that the Canon mount for all microphones not geiegnet, since it should be very broad.



Antwort von Axel:

You should test a directional microphone XLR take. Separate power supply not required, since the camera provides phantom power. This
As for the mounting on the camera is concerned, I will probably soon
sowas this Micro s.der despite external microphone holder. The only explanation: Since the rigid bracket and firmly screwed s.der Camera is apparently transmitted vibration to the microphone. Indeed: I mount the Micro on a tripod, this is annoying whirring away. It seems the microphone holder is good for nothing.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

Thanks for your answer Axel.

You mean, with this universal mount, the drive noise eliminated?








Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
As for the mounting on the camera is concerned, I will probably pick something soon.


but since you'll be disappointed, I have the right bracket:

zum Bild

and the sound is still crap (a lot of engine noise).



Antwort von BananaDragon:

If the engine noise despite extra micro mount really that loud?

Mh That disappointed me, but now a bit



Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
If the engine noise despite extra micro mount really that loud?


With an audio-technika AT825 Broadcast Micro: Yes.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

And that's with just 400 euros is not so cheap now ...



Antwort von weitwinkel:

hmmm,
so slow do I doubt s.dem good off a1
Slashcam the cam-test:
http://www.camcorder-test.com/
because the distance between points of h1 and s.größer
as between the HV10 and h1 ...
So the excellent tonausstattung of at least s.sollte times
on very well corrected.
gruß cj

ps. synonymous hire should focus on the pump in the AF zoom
out ... (which may h1 vermutl. better).



Antwort von BananaDragon:

What is the sound when SonyFX1?

And in what extent the differences between the two cams in the picture?



Antwort von weitwinkel:

Of the tonausstattung can s.nicht with the fx1/fx7 compare
because they must be with the h1/z1/v1 / (& sony a1) compare
and because it has surprisingly (and undeserved) for excellent
well as the other cams will receive ...
in the FX7 zb. was unfortunately a bit too much s.ton save:
you can not mic-in on line-in switch
and the tonaussteuerung goes only via the menu.
gruß cj

ps. built-in mic, but the FX7 is surprisingly good and
you hear little engine noise.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

Now I am a little confused.

I had fixed before next month, the XH-A1 to buy.

Now I do not really know what I should do: - /



Antwort von weitwinkel:

"Now I do not really know what I do"

the s.kaufen and not expect miracles.
this is a great cam for a super price,
it is only in the tests a bit overrated ...
gruß cj








Antwort von BananaDragon:

Nevertheless, the sound without interfering noise to drive. Is it somehow possible.



Antwort von Axel:

Banana Dragon wrote:
Nevertheless, the sound without interfering noise to drive. Is it somehow possible.
Wolfgang's Microphone is I think a stereo microphone, a mono my super cardioid (ME 66). I had the Micro for a Nahportrait as I said in the microphone holder (sitting there because of the smaller diameter rather shaky). The Summsen I heard in Headphones. Then I use a microphone mounted on a bracket lamp tripod, but it was not more than 15 cm to the side of the camera (was, as I said, a Nahportrait), and the noise was gone. I hope that the spider to me directly at the camera works. If not, can it synonymous to an Angel useful.
Banana Dragon wrote:
I had fixed before next month, the XH-A1 to buy. Now I do not really know what I should do: - /
This is one of the Forum, identify vulnerabilities. Previously I had almost two years, ever with the FX-1 added. Good process, good use, Sonyeben ('m still VX fan). Camera The camera belongs to a student, where it can be assumed that he had the utmost rausholt. He cursed when he was the first time with its new A1 filmed, but the pictures were no doubt a completely different class. In automatic mode, much worse, makes each manual step, the images beautiful, noble. It is more of a camera for photographers, reporters for less, imho.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

So would you rather me be the XH-A1 or the FX-1 guess? I would like documentaries and short films / movies so that rotate.

You have me sent a video that with the XH-A1 has been included. I was overwhelmed.



Antwort von weitwinkel:

So by building impressive even then you should prefer to s.with
the FX7 compare like with fx-support has been made:
http://www.fxsupport.de/
then, with good lighting conditions the difference is very small.
and the 5% advantage, then maybe when s.problem zoom in
lost.
gruß cj



Antwort von Axel:

Banana Dragon wrote:
You have me sent a video that with the XH-A1 has been included. I was overwhelmed.


It was said that afternoon with the first test. The compilation is a sort of "Best Of". Since I am now with the Daily Camera's practice, I can only emphasize: Nothing for Impatient. At the moment I would rather irretrievable (wedding) still prefer doing with the Sony. As a camera man, I am not talented anyway. I am now ready for my planned short film based on the storyboard, with each setting immediately checked (laptop capture) and for safety's sake with a number of presets are also included.
"Wide" wrote:
So by building impressive even then you should prefer to s.with
the FX7 compare like with fx-support has been made:
http://www.fxsupport.de/
then, with good lighting conditions the difference is very small.
and the 5% advantage, then maybe when s.problem zoom in
lost.
Wolfgang knows Cams and both can give you better advice.



Antwort von Meggs:

"weitwinkel" wrote:
hmmm,
so slow do I doubt s.dem good off a1
Slashcam the cam-test:

So the excellent tonausstattung of at least s.sollte times
on very well corrected.


For really good sound is the sound source Micro s.die and not on the camcorder. Therefore, XLR connectors, phantom power, accessible manual meter level and important. A camcorder with the tape drive makes noises times now, and a good micro is sensitive to these synonymous.
Some Manufacturer filter at the time of recording the typical drive frequencies in the sound out. I would in my camcorder do not want. The sound is then without audible drive noise, but the frequency curve is anything but linear. If you want can be synonymous in the audio editor to make the cut. Moreover, it is used correctly positioning the external microphone does not need.



Antwort von l21f:

Hello

sorry, but I can somehow the hype around the drive noise is not entirely understand. with normal shots with atmo I have never had a noise in our drive cams noticed / heard (have 2 XH A1 - and drive it only makes noise when I change the band ;-)), and has complained synonymous nobody ... would have to try something if I was in a soundproofed room would hear - but what am I in absolute silent synonymous s.audio then record? then the soundtrack kicked out eh ... single variant would be interviews in a quiet room / studio - but since the cam is far from ext. micro away, because then they would have already pfeiffer and asthmatic wheeze .... filming what ye? birds in the forest? ant battle in the basement? .... let's face it: when is really that much when silent film, that if you drive is really noisy "disturbing" would?

evt so someone can enlighten me ... thank you :-))

gruss rob

I sorry it all seems a bit exaggerated



Antwort von Axel:

"l21f" wrote:
I sorry it all seems a bit exaggerated
Is perhaps something gebeckmessert, but it is a matter of weakness highlighted. This is not the drive noise itself, but the housing and the microphone holder in combination, so obviously nothing will. About strengths was enough said.



Antwort von l21f:

hi axel ...

may be that you have quite ... for us it was never an issue - and I think we are never one to be synonymous - because we never heard any noises from the drive, bracket, or where ever came synonymous and could be disruptive impact would have done ... and when they do? then we have not heard of them since the atmo was overshadowed :-)) - For everything else there are external ... we leave the church at least in the dorf

gruss rob








Antwort von BananaDragon:

OK, although I'm perfectly aware that a beginners like me, me of the selected equipment If none can exploit, I have decided for the following composition:

1. Rode NTG-2 (because it is next to the phantom synonymous still provides 1.5 V power supply) - Micro
2. Rode Mini Boom Pole (2m) - Angel
3. Rode Deadcat - Windscreens
4. Cardial Cam 9 BK (9m) - XLR Cable
5. Sennheiser HD 25 - Headphones
6. Pro Snake 20035 - XLR / PC Cables

The set is with 499 euros in NEN proud price, but so am I prepared for the future. And now where I just have some money to have, so it is s.eine such investment.

Can anyone what to say about this compilation? I might advise against a component of?

The whole aim with the XH-A1 are used



Antwort von kombinat2null:

Had previously found indications keien, s.das NTG-2 on the Mini Boom Pole match. The has a 3 / 8 "thread ...



Antwort von DennisP.:

Hello,

I would s.deiner place 2 components change.
1.Ich would anstadt the Rode Mini Boom Pole, the great, or how I use the K & M for 74 ¬ Tonangel they have the advantage that they are about 3m long, what you (personally, I) for some scenes need.

2. Is he Headphones in my opinion not to use, I have tested it myself and it's really not bearable, the cushion does not cover the whole ear, which is already an unpleasant feeling to a lead, then the bracket is still synonymous so hard, the Headphones s.Kopf is too tight, it compresses the cushion formally against the ears. In addition, he is not shielded, you can hear more ambient noise than the sound from Headphones.
So if you're really so much money for a Headphones output will take the BEYERDYNAMIC DT 770 PRO (or similar such as 990)!
But I believe there are already good for 50 ¬ of Sennheiser Headphones! zBSENNHEISER EH 350th

And to the thread ...
There are brackets for 3-5 ¬ for the NTG-2 with a 3 / 8 connector.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

What Headphones do you recommend for s.ehesten? 770 or 990?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
... the NTG-2 on the Mini Boom Pole match. The has a 3 / 8 "thread ...

If the Micro has a 1/4-Inch-Gewinde, that would be synonymous not a problem: A small adapter like this one

www.yatego.com / studio express / p, 45b981a1e3a4e, 42f8634eb3cc07_8, adapter-3-8 - to-1-4-? sid = 05Y1185955829Yd242dc98669c2bcacf

then the connection, if you do not like a microphone spider want to use.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von BananaDragon:

For mounting on the Cam, I would like to use a spider.

For the assembly s.der Angel, I am still not sure exactly what I need.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

Banana Dragon wrote:
For the assembly s.der Angel ...

Exactly for this purpose I would go part of this concern:
www.audio-technica.com/cms/windscreens_mounts/9c0b77d22a994c09/index.html

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Axel:

"DennisP." wrote:
2. Is he Headphones in my opinion not to use ...
The description agrees exactly, I have this thing. It will be anywhere as nice linear Monitor Headphones praised, but it is not fun.
"DennisP." wrote:
Receive the BEYERDYNAMIC DT 770 PRO (or similar such as 990)!
But I believe there are already good for 50 ¬ of Sennheiser Headphones! zBSENNHEISER EH 350th
Headphones Do not buy on the Internet, it is like with shoes. In a trial store can be heard. There is a criterion that you must remember this: bass boosters should not be. I would Dennis'Rat follow.
Banana Dragon wrote:
For mounting on the Cam, I would like to use a spider.
Forgot to report: With no drive noise spider more.



Antwort von DennisP.:

Banana Dragon wrote:
What Headphones do you recommend for s.ehesten? 770 or 990?


So I can only my opinion about 770 concerning
and of which I am really very excited when it up is nothing more of the ambient noise to hear, and then the pleasant feeling in the sound.
Thus, you can not go wrong.
And he is just as expensive as the 990 and has pretty much the same data, because you can not lie next to it. In any case, both at least twice as good as the HD25.
And if you're not satisfied, there is still the 30-day money-back-granti.
Ideal for the NTG-2 Rode wär course SM-4 spider.








Antwort von BananaDragon:

Thank you. I think I will take 770.

The tripod spider must still wait a bit. At 500 Ocken is final: D



Antwort von BananaDragon:

"Axel" wrote:
Banana Dragon wrote:
For mounting on the Cam, I would like to use a spider.
Forgot to report: With no drive noise spider more.


That is why I would like to have one. You've given me in another thread recommended. :)



Antwort von DennisP.:

Hello Banana Dragon,

I would like to know if you have selected with the Equiptment're happy, especially if you meet the Headphones.

Ne time, another question:
Why hast thou of an adapter cable XLR to mini-jack bought when xh S.2 has XLR connections?



Antwort von Jan:

Well, I can not confirm it with the HD 25, I have probably a smaller head shape, and therefore the pressure bother me less, but it is very compact ...

I see it like who the user here:

Sennheiser HD-25

When VAD is the HD 25 to reference at all Beyerdynamic parts, na good buddy of me has a synonymous Beyer - because he is with the "favorable" Sennheiser models less can begin, he says whenever Sennheiser then only the upper class.

VG
Jan



Antwort von DennisP.:

Hello,

Of course, the HD 25 Headphones not bad, he's holding small and handy. What an Headphones with me were not normally need any one can Headphones hanging around his neck and there are hardly any differences. This is not an argument for me. But I have synonymous "big ears", and the Headphones, I have not myself. I have tested it jediglich and in my opinion schrimt he really did not, you still hear a lot of ambient noise. To offset the Headphones then probably this high pressure. Against the sound s.sich can not really say. But for me, this is the wrong mix, I personally think it Tonmann Every hour with this s.Stück Headphones from.
Is probably geschmackssache.

PS Banana Dragon, if you still reads, I would still be interested in what you think of the new equipment haelen.




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