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Frage von captainjens3000:


Hi,
for weeks I go through the WWW holes and the sales staff of well-known electrical stores - but until now I could give an answer None.
Following question: I have before me a digital camcorder to purchase, although currently out of stock everywhere in the PANASONIC NV-GS500EG-S.

However, still based on the Mini-DV. Transferring a cassette to the PC I understand synonymous via 1:1-Recording s.PC. But if I play the movie on, I have it on my calculator A large file? When I get eg the Magix Movie Edit want from this film and the individual scenes to arrange and edit, do I have this huge file is copied and then on the relevant scene cut? I would prefer for each scene its own file - just like the files I get when I with my digicam or mobile phone short films made in poor quality.

Emergence on the PC after the transfer of multiple files? Or should I prefer a camcorder with hard drive take? It is then for the money but the Panasonic does not usually as good and Mini-DV is indeed synonymous still the best quality.

As my sister in a few days her baby to the world brings, I wanted to reach a camera was purchased. I'm anxious times, where the wisdom lies. Ih hope you understand my rather amateur / beginner-like description of the problem.

Nevertheless, in advance thank you all for your HELP

Greeting
Jens

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Antwort von Chezus:

Describe the project times more accurate.
I know now, unfortunately, not so with exactly what you want to make the material.

Specify reason: you can either use the tape later and completely capture the best rausschneiden (which will be the wisest)

Or you make batch recording. Since you only draw on the plate what you really need them. but it accordingly synonymous your camcorder (and eternal before rewind is not very healthy)

The MiniDV is optional in any case very good schonmal

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Antwort von captainjens3000:

Hello,

I will, in principle, 2 hours of raw material into a film Magix 20 minutes of cutting. I will certainly some scenes in a different order or some of the scenes repeat times.

The question is whether I will ever return to this a huge file just fall back, or whether it is in mini-DV then on my calculator for each scene file there. I wanted Magix then, when I insert a new scene will not always first on the big file back and then 80 minutes off, for example, a scene in the middle of the film of 2 minutes to use.

I hope this describes my problem better

THANK YOU
Jens

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Antwort von Daigoro:

As the material lands on your plate depends on the Capture program and its settings.

For most (major) can be either all s.Stueck rueberziehen (about 12GB per hour), or after car scenes (using the timecode aufm tape - in any case, the individual scenes as long as the operation of the Start Stop button s.der Camera) to separate them, or manual disconnect after scenes ( "record" button, "Stop" Click - the lands between them as a file on the disk, the next scene is with a new file is created), or only certain Scenes manual capture (rumspulen to where you want to capture, then "record", then stop ..).

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Antwort von captainjens3000:

That means it is possible that I am dubbing from the camcorder to your PC, it can set that not a large file onto my PC, but rather multiple files, depending on the scene due to the timeline?

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Antwort von Daigoro:

(I thought that I would have said grad: P)

Yes, depending on the program is possible or not halt.
If it does not work, you need another Captureprogamm halt.

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Hello,

I do not know how to solve the Magix, since I use another product.

Usually it is today so that only a "large file" exists and on the timeline where you have the whole arrangierst are "links" on this file is created and with the project file. This leaves the original file is untouched and the project file contains only "execution instructions," dei editing program from running.

In the background, eg effects Render files created by the user, but remain hidden. This included but only the changed part of the original videos.

At the Scene of the detection program, there are two possibilities:

1.) Scene detection creates references
2) Scene detection creates individual files

No matter which variant your editing system is used, the entire tape loaded. In the first case, a file with 12 GB, in the second case, for example, 10 files á 1.2 GB. The bottom line is the same size.

At the end of the cut can be the result of export / save / fuse (or whatever synonymous always the program the whole thing is called) then arises from the content of the timeline, a new file.

When can my Liquid s.Ende a "Consolidate" do everything in the material that is not used, will be deleted - Part synonymous clips - and thus the disk space again quite empty sweep.

You can (and should) to the Media Management program cut your back and not try to hand with the Explorer "hintenherum" any cancellations and postponements, if you do not know what you're doing.

I would be synonymous only delete data if I s.Ende am sure they no longer need. If you have space problems, Get an additional (external) Frestplatte.

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Antwort von captainjens3000:

Super,

wanted to do nichr believe it!
Then you have me with the info very helpful and I will then look at the search for the Panasonic NV-S-GS500EG make ...

THANK YOU

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Antwort von captainjens3000:

Hmmm,

that are a lot of info. To sum it for the layman to summarize, if I film on my PC, I can transfer, depending on Videobeabreitungsprogramm, set whether the movie as one big file or in individual scenes than many small files on my calculator comes?

And if I have a large file, then can I still in the program by the movie and go out each scene and take in a different order rearrange? The crucial process is running in the background, but the program?

Ufff, very complicated!
Think so still, that I like the camera on the disk then mini DV many individual files could have, which I individually and CLICKING rüberziehen could. And only the scenes, which I think s.besten. But it goes so with no mini-DV ...

Greeting

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Antwort von Chezus:

So, since you are actually a pretty good consumer cam, I would have chosen you always expressly advise a complete computer tape in the backup.

Batch intake is unhealthy for your camera.

You can in your editing program whenever you want something moved, changed, cut, copy, etc as you like.

The changes are not big in your file but is stored in the file of the program, then cut is not larger than a few kb.

The file can only contain information what you've done so far and where the clip on your hard drive is located. It is so synonymous DV editing so computational intensive. The editing program must be so fast on your original clip and can be accessed with some slow motion and effects in real-time play.

Even if you render the whole thing is then your original file is not altered but a new generated. Your finished film.

It is a large file more manageable. Disadvantage: very brief scenes are just harder to find.

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Quote: And if I have a large file, then can I still in the program by the movie and go out each scene and take in a different order rearrange?

Definitely Yes!

Quote: Think so still, that I like the camera on the disk then mini DV many individual files could have, which I individually and CLICKING rüberziehen could. And only the scenes, which I think s.besten. But it goes so with no mini-DV ...

There is no holding still camera. But if your system has a cut scene detection mastered, then you may already have a pre-in the form of separate scenes deliver. The identified scenes, you can click on and out-and herziehen.

It is completely Whether a large or several small files. The material is SOWISO on your hard drive and the cutting system operates with references. Where it is completely no preference whether it is up to several parts of a file to show or to many small files.

You can of course synonymous the scenes of the camera from one time. I would, however, because you then your tape drive filigree Camera would suffer without reason.

My tip: full tape capture (if any scene with separation). After sifting s.PC (because the scene separation is not always working correctly) and possibly scenes manual disconnect.

Please listen in order to include in each file to think. For a Powerpoint presentation slides her moves but synonymous in the program. Or call her for each slide individually to the presentations?

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Antwort von Pebowski:

So it really comes to the Capture program:
Magix generated a large avi file with a small file, where the references to the individual settings are recorded - ie in the program you see the extra settings (so it would be louder than individual files). Disadvantage of course: if you only use 3 settings did you get the big file with 1 hour on the plate. Pinnacle works the same. Magix's favor with many individual files do not cope well - rising from some point (at least until now, whether it is in the latest version is still synonymous, Magix users should say).

Adobe Premiere Pro takes a different approach: it makes a loud individual avi files, which of course you can delete individual synonymous (as dudir the vorgesetllt searched). As with the Premiere Elements, I do not know, but suppose at times, as well.

There are simple 2 fundamentally different concepts.
Is it now a bit clearer?

LG
Peter

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Antwort von jensen3000:

Thank you all for the info. Now I have slowly penetrated the issue.

Please illiteracy in my camcorder do not resent. If yes do not synonymous master fallen from heaven.

In this sense, once again thank you and you a beautiful May
Jens

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