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Welches externes Mikrofon für Canon XH-A1?

Which External Microphone for Canon XH-A1?



Frage von Peter Storm:
Februar 2008

Hello,

Unfortunately, I am still without experience, but I want to change that.

I am still looking for a decision aid for an external microphone for the Canon XH-A1. All forum posts that I have read so far, do not say clearly what is good and what is bad. I would greatly appreciate a clear answer pleased.

So: External Microphone for around 200 euros, less obviously synonymous.
My selection (perhaps incorrectly synonymous): Rode NTG 1, NTG 2, Beyerdynamic MCE 86 S II CAM, Sennheiser MKE 300 or another?

What is the Unteschied between them? Especially when Rode NTG 1 / 2?

Still a very stupid question: These are mono. How am I to process the sound in stereo?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Peter Storm" wrote:
... What is the ... Unteschied between NTG 1 / 2?

The NTG-1 requires a phantom power of 48V, the NTG-2 is an alternative, synonymous with a 1.5 V battery to operate.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Axel:

Lies








Antwort von Peter Storm:

"Axel" wrote:
Lies



Antwort von Peter Storm:

After a demand times:

If my budget by about $ 50 increase, but I get a stereo microphone as BEYERDYNAMIC MCE 72 CAM. Bring me the (tonmäßig) next?



Antwort von Meggs:

"Peter Storm" wrote:

None even used as an external Microphone?


You make little of what you record with the Micro, and how you want to position the micro.
There are mono and stereo microphones with a variety of characteristics, depending on the application. You have you in your pre-only mono directional microphones selected. The connector is usually on the camcorder. The fact that this approach is not necessarily optimal results, it is clear from the thread indicates that you have linked Axel.



Antwort von Peter Storm:

I would mainly landscape and local needs and to absorb the sound. The animals can in this landscape (roaring stag, piependes Moorhuhn), which can be a city festival with the voices (eg, Highland Games in Scotland or Country Fair in the USA), which can be a music performance (but not because of the music, but because of the general event, such as bagpipes chapel walk across the road), which can be synonymous, but one person who in a whiskey distillery whiskey the process of manufacture or explains but a ship captain, his sailors storing explained.

All that you need to make a travel customers to travel the country to bring closer or the documentation of a specific journey itself

I just Meggen when seen on the website that you are a t.Bone EM9600 use. That is quite interesting from the price. Passt because for the Canon XH-A1 (connection, applications and quality)?



Antwort von Meggs:

Then I would place a stereo s.deiner Micro-use. For Atmos is the spatial effect of stereo microphones advantageous.
You could s.der the A1 synonymous BEYERDYNAMIC MCE 72 PV CAM use, as the A1 XLR inputs with phantom power has. The MCE 72 PV CAM, in contrast to the MCE 72 CAM a symmetrical outputs, the XLR cable can easily be extended almost arbitrarily. This enable you need in case a happening from a distance to shoot, and the Micro anyway ideally positioned.
The downside: You can use the Micro s.Geräte only connect the phantom power supply.



Antwort von Meggs:

"Peter Storm" wrote:

I just Meggen when seen on the website that you are a t.Bone EM9600 use. That is quite interesting from the price. Passt because for the Canon XH-A1 (connection, applications and quality)?


The EM9600 fits anschlussmäßig course s.die A1. Qualitatively, it is the price accordingly. Presumably, it is worse than in the A1-built, also mono. Nevertheless - the EM9600 close s.der sound source sounds better than a much better micro from 5 m distance.



Antwort von Peter Storm:

Once again a reference to the required application: We drive through the countryside of one date to another. If s.Wegesrand (coincidentally or expect) something interesting and displayable exists, then it is without much preparation can be filmed. There will be no second "man" type, no sound and no light cars. I will be synonymous not have time for days in the right light and weather to wait. Either it is true or it will not be filmed. We are three months later again eh s.der same body. Sometimes there is a place to make and, surprisingly, some spectacular event. Or suddenly you are with the car in the middle of a deer herd. Then the camera immediately deployable.

The Micro is therefore both in the middle of the deer herd to function as a synonymous for a 50 m distant Pipeband. For many on the Ferry film, the ship upon arrival will be filmed with sound and a spontaneous singing at the same time deposit a fellow Scots at the "beer" bar.

Would there possibly synonymous rapid switching between built-in stereo microphone and external microphone directional sense?

I know quite exactly what I want / need, but not how.



Antwort von Axel:

"Peter Storm" wrote:
The Micro is therefore both in the middle of the deer herd to function as a synonymous for a 50 m distant Pipeband.
... Would there possibly synonymous fast switching between built-in stereo microphone and external microphone directional sense?


A simple guide XLR mic, phantom power to safely instructed, and the spider are rich. You have already try those situations in which the ugly Fiepen camera tape comes up with. Sometimes, because the built-determined synonymous Micro. The manual defines the A1 one for good sound recordings manual audio control and a header Phones to close scrutiny. Thus, you are then immune from unpleasant surprises.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Before you Money invested in a spider you should prefer the first 20 euro into a microphone stand to invest ...

MEsmeisten That makes sense. The second would be shotgun Tonangel + wind + basket and accessories








Antwort von Axel:

"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Before you Money invested in a spider you should prefer the first 20 euro into a microphone stand to invest ...

A simple spider synonymous get this. That's probably should not fail. The tip with the windshield but it is hot: How many outside shots were not even a breeze inconspicuous spoiled?
Otherwise, I had Peter understood that he had a maximum s.Mobilität needs. Whether as a microphone stand is always there?



Antwort von Peter Storm:

Exactly! How should I Einpersonenfilmteam for spontaneous shots only build a microphone stand, the Camera in another place, etc. Also a microphone for me, Angel would not be manageable. Until then, the deer herd ran away, the ferry departed and fallen snow.

But who has personal experience with one or other of Microphone?

If the supplied windshield at the microphones from?
How sensitive is such a Microphone in a spider when put away the camera in the car. Or do you all again abtüdeln *?

* Hamburg expression for deconstructing disassemble, tapes are synonymous getüdelt = tied, bound.



Antwort von JUB:

Alos I use the rule for the built-for Atmo Micro my FX7. Stability and zoom off taboo! Should both be used Sound of the Angel, or if there is no S-sound where appropriate, and the entsprict in practice more than one thinks, Zoom H2.



Antwort von Meggs:

"Peter Storm" wrote:
Exactly! How should I Einpersonenfilmteam for spontaneous shots only build a microphone stand, the Camera in another place, etc. Also a microphone for me, Angel would not be manageable.


I would see something differentierter. There are these spontaneous situations - then just get your camcorder, and turn losfilmen. An external micro, I would not leave it in your pocket.
But there are certainly synonymous situations where you 5 min time to prepare.



Antwort von Meggs:

"Peter Storm" wrote:

But who has personal experience with one or other of Microphone?


I have experience with different mics. Synonymous But if you are reluctant to do: As long as the micro on your A1 is - or is near the A1 is - you run the noise from the A1 with record.
If you want ne slight improvement, mostly the best possible on the Micro camcorder.
If you want ne strong improvement - a middle plug on Micro ne Tonangel or a tripod, and bring the micro for sound source.



Antwort von JUB:

I can only agree! Applies synonymous for the FX7.
JUB



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Well, logically it's not always synonymous, but if the slightest possibility that I would always hold, as I wrote.

Otherwise a Microphone with really good directivity (hypercardioid, for example) including good s.Tripod this spider and attach s.besten s.einem boom. Ne spider's good but not for 20 euro ;-)



Antwort von Peter Storm:

Is something feasible, as a little tripod table tripod on the hood of the (off) car engine and the camera on tripod next?

If the standard included a microphone windscreen?

Once again, a statement of my hectic here: We have now decided to buy the camera in mid-March and we want to in the U.S., where we have 22 years lived for a while and then our footsteps to follow. Two weeks later it goes for about two weeks to Scotland and we will usof various Scottish Tourist Boards dragged through the countryside. This will ensure events and incidents that are not previously known and which are so synonymous not come back.

So must be as much as possible be resolved, as much as possible in order to obtain good raw material that will in peace may be edited. Since then I have time for more synonymous errors, which then can be corrected.

To completely unknown to me but not everything because I have for many years continuously make digital photos, synonymous for our print catalog. The have many requirements. And I'm very experienced in the reputation of boring vacation and family videos. Have you ever been a three Polish wedding with a lot of vodka in their original length without cutting to watch?

But back to Microphone.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

"Peter Storm" wrote:
Have you ever been a three Polish wedding with a lot of vodka in their original length without cutting to watch?


No, hardly. Except you keep it safe from anyone ;-)

If you are working in pairs, and Micro Reporter ran close. The second person can then be flexibly respond to the events. As is synonymous again the main Tonangel, if inexperienced anglers, I would but then again on the extreme directivity refrain. Otherwise the sound is very fast in the bucket, which I know from sorry experience.

The standard provided sufficient protection for outdoor shots usually not enough. That is not synonymous windbreak but a real pop-called protection. 20-30 euros for the self can be a "pass-appointed" windscreen basket consisting of freely suspended micro bracket and tinker coat. The protective properties go far beyond the ordinary pops out. Comparison to Rycote or Sennheiser stinks but then the home-from.

Your idea with the hood, I have not tried. If the hood but not too loud in the vibration level is "should" it work. For 20 euros, but as I said there are special microphone stand (Tripods is actually too high) which in no structures.








Antwort von Reijnders:

Under
http://www.amateurfilm-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=133657&s=a4c088bff3fc3902e9c6299296882526c523d71d # post133657

there is a Testclip NTG1 s.XH-A1




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