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Frage von maho:


Hello,
For example, the PowerShot A540 is available for around ¬ 200. They create videos in 640x480 / 30bps without too much compression.

Comparing the image quality with a miniDV cam, as Canon MV900 for 200-300 ¬, then there is a significant quality difference visible?

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Antwort von beiti:

"maho" wrote: Comparing the image quality with a miniDV cam, as Canon MV900 for 200-300 ¬, then there is a significant quality difference visible? But hey. :)

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Antwort von Jan:

Well, the digicam's are better at shooting, although Canon because of the relationship brings nothing special to me, 640/480/30/B/s can become almost any 2 of 3 cameras, S.200 ¬ basically almost every down to a few exceptions, Kodak / Olympus zb.

Canon synonymous still takes in the Motion JPEG compression on what about 70-80 MB / min need optical zoom during the video did not synonymous, AF only when a button. Olympus SP 320 / 350 are not bad in the smaller video, optical zoom in between, permanent AF (synonymous switched off), and stabilizer.

Jenoptik has even now - what has become one of the scrap metal companies - Concord Camera GmbH - we take about 1 / 3 of the cameras back, already has models of the video's into the latest compression MPEG 4 and save with software attached to XVID codec changed. Pentax has in almost every well-known DivX codec - the One or the Other DVD PLayer immediately recognizes.

I have resumed a week a few videos, Panasonic FX 3 on most models of which beherschen 848x480/30/B/s full to map, already looked quite appealing.

Or go synonymous Casio's idea to 640/480/25/B/s equal to the 30 pictures will not be converted to DVD authoring are still in 25 is good, although I usually do not with the company can begin much.

Or Nikon 7c now appears to have some nice video features this:

Time-lapse video, stop-motion video function for animated cartoons, B / W videos, AF mode (Single AF or Continuous AF) selectable in the video mode, stabilizer, 3 "LCD

S.end But they have no chance against a MiniDV, pans see no preference whether fast memory card always bad, so do many current models at about 5 Mbit / sec - whereas MiniDV 25 MBit consistently records, the squeaky sound wave has a digicam synonymous not stand a chance against a PCM / Dolby Digital / 4 channel Sonyaufgenommenen sound.

Canon is quite good, although my non-existent, the battery remaining indicator already annoying, which bought at the company only when the SLR models ....

Well it is making progress

VG
Jan

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Antwort von ami842:

Thanks Jan for the detailed answer!

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Antwort von ami842:

@ Jan - You know synonymous chance, as the video quality of the Canon Powershot G7 is at 640x480 (30 fps)? The would I buy me that is like

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Antwort von Jan:

Welcome Guest,

she is average. But that is rather s.dem video system was used in their Canon digicams. The Canon of used Motion JPEG compression takes a lot of space, a GB card synonymous then adjust it about 11 minutes on it (8 minutes recording time s.Anfang is not entirely correct because only precomputed). The sound is on all models of some squeaky / bassflache Wave mono sound, up to S has 2 / 3 IS the stereo.

At Canon, the shooting is limited to a GB card, or in other words synonymous with a fast card, it must be under 1 GB breathe and save (640x480/30/B/s).

That the G-7 has a switchable neutral density filter is something special, you have plenty of video cameras in 1000 ¬ to spend in order to obtain the feature. The optical stabilizer is synonymous a plus.

If I remember correctly, the G had 7 no AF in video (only the initial removal was stopped) and only digital (like you may be used in addition to Canon's S 2 / 3 IS - AF and optical zoom during the video), as would But look again when I get the camera again.

The G7 convinced more likely to function by their photo, several fixed values for reinforcements (ISO) directly above the left set is already ne good thing. But is still not a bad camera for short videos.

I hope that Canon and time drags on, the new compression codecs and is, at least, MPEG 4 and DIVX XVID, there are 20 minutes to get the best quality at a GB - Pentax, Samsung, and Kodak zb since next.

Although I with the Casio calculators can not start so much, I must emphasize the new EX V 7th The first time a Digcam used in the well-known video codec H.264, MPEG 4, with Zoom (7 x zoom) and stereo sound! One little hook, mechanical Bildstabilsator (CCD) in the photo mode is not used for video, it uses a digital into the event book. Resolutionist her 848/480/30/B/s ie a 16 / 9 format as Panasonic for many digicam already used.

Luckily, Casio has finally a new main processor - built engine 2, it will be interesting whether the notes as in a similar upsurge of the Panasonic Venus Engine III (eg, he makes the FX FX 07 in contrast to 01 (with the old) for a significantly better image results, especially at high sensitivities, unfortunately, Panasonic is working with a very aggressive, coming to a noise reduction works, but that will improve with the 2007 models.

If there is a little time, you should probably wait for video on the desire of a small Casio digicam V 7th

In the photo has definitely divided the area but no match for the Canon Powershot G 7

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Speed Demon:

Thanks for the detailed answer! (I'm the host of advance)

Hmm, but still draws the G7 if I have not seen the mono sound with 705 / s to kbps, which corresponds to CD-quality! (Mono halt)
I've yet seen in other Camera None.

> The G-7 which has a switchable neutral density filter is something special, you have to spend plenty of video cameras in 1000 ¬

Interesting ... what can you actually achieve it? Would you turn on the good?

> If I remember correctly, the G had 7 no AF in video (only the initial removal was stopped) and only digital

Yes that's right. But actually that's ideal: The camera is indeed a Resolutionvon approximately 10 million pixels, the video Resolutionentspricht yes only 640 * 480, which represents not even 0.31 million pixels. Thus, one should be able to even properly use the digital zoom without loss of quality in the video, right?

> ... V, highlighting new EX 7th The first time a Digcam used in the well-known video codec H.264, MPEG 4

I have online (a test of a Test series? Read) model. There, the tester writes, saw the videos, unfortunately, not so good (not at all synonymous sharp).

Unfortunately, even synonymous, the Panasonic (30 fr.) 16:9-videos LX2 IMO not even use it. The 15 fr HD videos while looking better, but who wants to jerky video.
Are there actually any of the Casio V7 receive test videos online?

I might have s.Liebsten synonymous 16:9 - video, but it seems as if the Canon G7 with its least 4:3-quality videos the only usable, I can find. Or maybe you have a tip for me?

Thank you ...

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello SpeedDamon,

thou hast indeed well informed.

I think the Wave mono sound of the canon, or really any kind of digicam - very "squeaky" is not really to compare with the digital PCM 16 bit 48 Khz.

How much KB is the Wave sound, but I do not have in mind.

The neutral density filter can limit the depth of field, or force the camera even more important to the larger aperture (smaller number) in too much ambient light. Many cameras do not get their best picture performance with Aperture, 11 or 16 (This would then set the camera in sunlight rather) at about f5.6 and less. Digicams have different aperture Aperture there a 7-8 one is about 16-22) with analog equipment or cameras with larger sensors.

In the interior density filter is recommended rather less - a darker version.

Calculate the with the digital zoom anyway, I think not really.
In SonyDSC H 5 with fully digital (24 or 36x) would have the Picture supposedly still 640x480. The picture looks worse for me, at length, as if I had just made one 640x480 without digital zoom.
This then leads to the well-camera SW s.wie well they cope with their algorithms comes.

I can always synonymous Panasonic recommend that their 848x480/30/B/s look good, TZ 1 would be my tip, faster AF (which is on digicam in movie mode rare) optical zoom + optical + zoom +10 x stable for video . We'll see how their successors are TZ 2 & 3, a 28 mm wide Anglereizt already, especially for video.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von bumsbomber:

again thanks for the reply.

> I am the Wave mono sound of the canon, or really any kind of digicam - very "squeaky think" is not really to compare with the digital PCM 16 bit 48 Khz.

Hmm, do you happen to know if the sound of the Canon G7 as "squeaky" is?

So I had with 'ner SonyDSC-W1' views made video recordings (sound had 32 kHz) and the sound was anything but squeaky IMO.

Too bad the Panasonic TZ1 would be really perfect for my needs, but unfortunately once again disturbed by a point: Even this is) seems to only 8 kHz (Sound.
The problem is that I am indeed with the camera in particular will make concert recordings. Even though the sound was a bit overdriven, yet he sounded more impressive in the W1 well!
At 8 kHz, I am sure that when the music can then :-( completely forgotten.
And with 'nem Micro s.Kragen + MD-recorder had run around this time I really do not want ...

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Antwort von Jan:

Digicams now have built small, simple times microphones, where the sound is a bit stop shallow, bass are often lacking, the frequency response is very nearly synonymous often limited, probably of different filmmakers to film makers in the assessment. That you probably need to test himself, whether it is sufficient to you. And I am starting to rotate with Camera 3000-5000 ¬ a concert, and depending on the daily form synonymous just behind something worse DVD productions, because one has different requirements.

This is similar to the pan with a Digcam, low data rate of almost all Cams's just too much for it as synonymous not help San Disk Ultra & Extreme III or IV

VG
Jan

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