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Frage von google98:


Hi,

'm new here:).

am still an avid amateur film maker / cutter, but since s.Montag my iMac comes, I'm busy thinking, with what software I want to work in the future.

- Adobe Production Suite (CS5 when it is out there then) - I get as a student for around 300 euros!

- Final Cut Express - should be even better on the Mac, but without additional software and EXPENSIVE.

FCE is it worth anyway?
Gibts that somewhere cheap:)?

Thank you!

Chris

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Antwort von Charlinsky:

Hi congratulations on the new Maci will be thrilled!

Had the same problem, but after I had worked for years with PP, I've also got the Productions Suite (for Mac) and am zufriefden top. Runs smoothly as you s.and synonymous said s.Mac FCS program is actually THE editing, but it has its price synonymous for Students, therefore, decided PP CS 4th

Especially is so synonymous away the incorporation - to make the program knows ....
Have fun with your Mac!

LG
Charly

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Antwort von Axel:

There are always people with different experiences, such slashCAM Charlinsky, which operates the Adobe Suite on Mac and satisfied. I myself - nearly 10 years on Mac FC know - Release on PC and know a satisfied Mac Adobler, which I have looked over his shoulder. My opinion: FC S is without doubt the better software on a Mac when it comes to the complete production. At Adobe on a PC, it is known to be very strong on the system configuration, but let us say, under favorable conditions can make Adobe / PC and FC / Mac on the same level. Words, it not necessary for the suite to have a Mac with others on specific, optimized PCs, they may even be better. Conversely, it is necessary to have a Mac for FC, and the system is already configured optimally.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

As I say not as a Mac user s always -

"Mac has only one life and only because FC permission
;-)

If there is no student version of FC?

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von google98:

hi,

Thanks for the reply!

pound at ebay.co.uk are the fcs for 360, can it be?

How important are photoshop and after effects in my case if I had fcs?

Thank you!

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Antwort von Axel:

"Google98" wrote: How important are photoshop and after effects in my case if I had fcs?

First, one makes not only videos, secondly FCS is implicit in that you have Photoshop, because although it probably times efforts were made to develop a corresponding software of Apple, no one knows more, not synonymous, the Final Cut Pro manuals, in which Photoshop is the name appears at least as often as every other studio Programs. Is it just so they can create graphic templates for video, get there with the free Gimp rightly claims to be. For this purpose - but only for this - you just go even cope with Motion.

After Effects running on a Mac of course. Also this can be, as also originally designed for the Mac, integrate very well. One can, before you decide, all for 31 days for free, that is the great advantage of Adobe.

Do you need After Effects? The aim then Motion. Motion is a kind of stripped down Mac versions of After Effects. Who controls and AAE are already widely used, which I would advise you to stick to it. In most plugins will be without one in Motion, but for beginners in animation and compositing it to learn faster.

When were dismissed in court all the evidence submitted as evidence and rejected all evidence due to limitations, if only the remains of what really is a fact, then we can all fan-babble of zusammenkürzen two pages on one main difference that I as a Mac Partisan formulate this:

APS uses native editing. The original codec, so weak he was synonymous and so not suitable for software and hardware is imported, and with it comes the holterdipolter to the bitter end. One must not go down that path, but at least was of Adobe itself does not develop an alternative.

FCS relies on non-native editing. Most codecs (up to currently AVCHD) will be accepted but Final Cut Pro, they throw you import into a Quicktime container. This codec will be muxed transport stream the Inter-frame indicated for all times (which means that only understands a Premiere user). Moreover, it offers 6 different intermediates, from simple "Apple Intermediate Codec", which is already used in iMovie and FCE, to the "ProRes4444. Thus, there were many years ago with a lot more fragile computers real time. This makes a particular quality that is maintained for the entire workflow, keywords New Compression, roundtrip.

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Antwort von google98:

"Axel" wrote: "Google98" wrote: How important are photoshop and after effects in my case if I had fcs?

First, one makes not only videos, secondly FCS is implicit in that you have Photoshop, because although it probably times efforts were made to develop a corresponding software of Apple, no one knows more, not synonymous, the Final Cut Pro manuals, in which Photoshop is the name appears at least as often as every other studio Programs. Is it just so they can create graphic templates for video, get there with the free Gimp rightly claims to be. For this purpose - but only for this - you just go even cope with Motion.

After Effects running on a Mac of course. Also this can be, as also originally designed for the Mac, integrate very well. One can, before you decide, all for 31 days for free, that is the great advantage of Adobe.

Do you need After Effects? The aim then Motion. Motion is a kind of stripped down Mac versions of After Effects. Who controls and AAE are already widely used, which I would advise you to stick to it. In most plugins will be without one in Motion, but for beginners in animation and compositing it to learn faster.

When were dismissed in court all the evidence submitted as evidence and rejected all evidence due to limitations, if only the remains of what really is a fact, then we can all fan-babble of zusammenkürzen two pages on one main difference that I as a Mac Partisan formulate this:

APS uses native editing. The original codec, so weak he was synonymous and so not suitable for software and hardware is imported, and with it comes the holterdipolter to the bitter end. One must not go down that path, but at least was of Adobe itself does not develop an alternative.

FCS relies on non-native editing. Most codecs (up to currently AVCHD) will be accepted but Final Cut Pro, they throw you import into a Quicktime container. This codec will be muxed transport stream the Inter-frame indicated for all times (which means that only understands a Premiere user). Moreover, it offers 6 different intermediates, from simple "Apple Intermediate Codec", which is already used in iMovie and FCE, to the "ProRes4444. Thus, there were many years ago with a lot more fragile computers real time. This makes a particular quality that is maintained for the entire workflow, keywords New Compression, roundtrip.


wow, thank you.

ie I might as well be happy ambitious amateur film-maker on my Mac with FCS:)

Again back to the ebay.co.uk: Are these really full versions right? That would be 400 euros for everything together ... (Final Cut Studio)

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Antwort von Charlinsky:

"Axel" wrote:

One can, before you decide, all for 31 days for free, that is the great advantage of Adobe.



Premiere assisted in the trial version but not HD editing ...

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/News/News.html

There, get GIMP for OSX

If you only "sporadically" with photos or graphics bzgl working templates for film that is a good solution.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von google98:

"B. DeKid" wrote: http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/News/News.html

There, get GIMP for OSX

If you only "sporadically" with photos or graphics bzgl working templates for film that is a good solution.

MfG
B. DeKid


Thank you.

Photoshop and Co is needed especially in video editing for masks, images with alpha channels or etc?

mfg

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Antwort von DamienTrickster:

Why does not Final Cut Express?

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Antwort von google98:

"DamienTrickster" wrote: Why does not Final Cut Express?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"Google98" wrote:

Photoshop and Co is needed especially in video editing for masks, images with alpha channels or etc?



So for masks the less you do with motion on the Mac or just AE.

For graphics, images and patterns and so gimmicks it is recommended .. but basically, the synonymous Gimp Gimp is free and above all ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von google98:

"B. DeKid" wrote: "Google98" wrote:

Photoshop and Co is needed especially in video editing for masks, images with alpha channels or etc?



So for masks the less you do with motion on the Mac or just AE.

For graphics, images and patterns and so gimmicks it is recommended .. but basically, the synonymous Gimp Gimp is free and above all ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid


and which can then Photoshop and AE better?

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Antwort von Bespi:

If you want to work with Photoshop and After Effects, or must, then the simplest and s.Anständigsten together with Premiere. This is my experience and may well auvh of any confirmed. And then this is probably synonymous a suitable PC at least equivalent.

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Antwort von google98:

"Spat" wrote: If you want to work with Photoshop and After Effects, or must, then the simplest and s.Anständigsten together with Premiere. This is my experience and may well auvh of any confirmed. And then this is probably synonymous a suitable PC at least equivalent.

and what are alternative except s.Mac GIMP? Can one say that man with Motion as well get there (instead of AE)?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

There are no alternatives to PS - except perhaps Gimp

And motion is just the "roughly" equivalent to AE

................

But I see as synonymous spat

Who is on PS and AE is synonymous with s.besten advised to use PP.
But then arises the question of just what really is needed then a Mac?

Therefore, I would say FC for Mac
and
Adobe CS for PC

But before anything goes thus synonymous on both platforms is the question or Meihnung eh irrelevant and practically almost pure taste thing.

I'll stay with PC and Adobe as CS, which is good for full benefits for my needs.

But I would cut a lot then I would possibly on a Mac and share in combination with FC

So this is basically up to you - and since you would have access to the student version would you go with Adobe probably cheaper - just the question arises what you later times (want to do professionally).

Then I would have an option.
At bottom, however, are the 3 different tasks / jobs

- Cutter
- Animation Artist
- Graphic Artist

MfG
B. DeKid

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