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Aufzeichnungsformate HDR SR11E

Recording Formats HDR SR11E



Frage von coolsurfing:
März 2008

Hi,

I have downloaded a SonyHDR SR11E purchased. Now when you record the following format as an option:
HD FH 16M
HD HQ 9M
HD SP 7M
HD LP 5M

They do:
SD 9M HQ
SD SP 6M
SD LP 3M

As the manual indicates is that the 16M etc. 16 Mbit / s corresponds etc.
It is described as the FH 1920X1080/50i HD is HD and SP is 1440X1080/50i
But what is the other recording formats? I have unfortunately found nothing.
Can someone next to me help?

Thank you

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Play all formats with Nero ShowTime from, get all the information on the monitor when you activate this display option searched.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

The new Nero Showtime, however, is only part of the Nero product, and I would like but can not be extrapolated to install Nero?








Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Then you take the free MPC, where you can also extract properties of the clips.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

Thanks for the info.
The MPC will then appear synonymous, whether 24p or 25p or 50i and 1440 or 720 or 1920?

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"coolsurfing" wrote:
... What the manual indicates is that the 16M etc. 16 Mbit / s corresponds to, etc. .. But what is the other recording formats ??...

In the SD area, it is basically the same: the MPEG2 recording with 9, 6 or 3 Mbps, which is the maximum recording times of 880, 1310 and 2510 minutes on the hard drive is - the Resolutionist each course the famous SD PAL.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

That the recording time with a lower bit rate is extended to me very clear, but the higher bitrate must still synonymous higher Resolutionbewirken, or? Are there SD PAL synonymous different resolutions?

Thank you.

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von WoWu:

No, the AVC must no longer be the case, because here the different tools can be used to affect the recording. However, one can assume that with increasing bandwidth along the image quality of the tools improved.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"coolsurfing" wrote:
... will then appear synonymous, whether 24p or 25p or 50i and 1440 or 720 or 1920? ...

The SR11 dominated 1920x1080 and 1440x1080 in the field of HD and SD at 720x576 - all with 50i. Recordings with 24p or 25p you can coax her no.

"coolsurfing" wrote:
... Is it for SD-PAL synonymous various Resolutions? ...

No, SD-PAL is precisely defined. The Resolutionist of the way, regardless of the bit rate: the latter changed so "only" the quality of the recording, but not the image size.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

Is the HD HQ could still be 1440X1080/50i but with better picture quality than HD SP?

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"coolsurfing" wrote:
... Is the HD HQ could still be 1440X1080/50i but with better picture quality than HD SP ???...

True: Only the "FH" level is 1920, the remaining steps are HD-1440th

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

Jo, so I can see now by some.
Another question I would have but still. By default, the Camera HD SP (1440X1080/50i) as the recording format. Normally, I would tend in the highest ResolutionHD FH (1920X1080/50i) recorded, simply the best quality to have. The course plays no role. But I think times have read here that it is possible to fast pans should problems occur? I wanted to be synonymous with the Camera windsurfing film, where you often must swing faster.
What would be recommended?

Thank you.

Greeting

Coolsurfing








Antwort von WoWu:

The artifacts are not in the first approach of the image depends on the problems and are more synonymous in the search box MPEG2. MPEG 4 has some better tools to do exactly this issue. For example, only a common vector for the whole picture when panning, vectors which are already outside the picture window is, etc. etc.
There is a lot better solutions than MPEG 2nd
For me is just doubtful that in 1920 really be resolved by the sensor or whether the vendor as only another s.Kameraausgang interpolation in order to FullHD's banner to be able to write.
So far there is no reliable evidence that the sensor is physically synonymous with the Resolutionabtastet.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

That is very interesting. What can I do to get out? I do not think you can see the s.Ausgangsmaterial? If you had rights, I would be better in HD HQ (improved 1440X1080/50i) record, or?

Thank you.

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von WoWu:

It is for the layman not so readily apparent and the tests that it is better deal, whether the buttons are round or square and not whether the manufacturer properly inform their customers.
I would s.Deiner body quite a few test shots, and my application for the best setting to choose.
You can not do anything anyway, when it is 1920 but not in it. The other Manufacturer synonymous not make it better.



Antwort von Michaela:

Yes, because you have quite sure. Actually a pity that one about not getting accurate statements. I will be a few test shots. The problem is really just where I should look it to me, since I own no HD Television (currently) have. Maybe so, I must look at the Media Markt go, and I see the pictures there.

Thank you once.

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von Michaela:

At least according to the manufacturer's specifications in the technical data sheet has 3,810,000 pixels CMOS - for full-HD are actually only 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels is required.

Times I would test to see whether the horizontal Resolutionin 1920x1080 is better than 1440x1080.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
... according to the manufacturer's specifications ... has 3,810,000 pixels CMOS ...

As a gross value indicates Sonysogar 5,660,000 pixels.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von coolsurfing:

That looks actually quite good. We must make a time to wait for a test, or?

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von WoWu:

One must not forget the FarbPattern and if Sony Then perhaps "ClearVid" does, then the 6:1:1. (for one-chip)
The Resolutiondes sensor is not identical with the image resolution.
Theoretically, I need (greatly simplified) 3 x 2k for a proper 1920x1080 resolution it.



Antwort von bernard:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Times I would test to see whether the horizontal Resolutionin 1920x1080 is better than 1440x1080.


Moin
So, I have the SR11 for 8 days (France - Grentzgebiet)
Have concerns with the camcorder.
Medium low light's just missing s.was (interior through windows of the outside exposed).
For full portaits or 1440, for example, is the "thread" (or direction when it's not so bright to be)) of the dark hair is not recorded. There is only one, so to speak, "eintönigter dark spot."
Strange is that same picture auf'm anything below the bright sweater aufweist all the details, down to the smallest Wollpflaum or thread. Unbelievable.

The 900TRV that I synonymous It has works better because in the same circumstances as hair is concerned and with the same Luxzahl (5Lux).
So I feel that the time

Hopefully it's been my s.einer Fehleinstellung's
If not: - /

Greetings from France








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"bernard" wrote:
... In low light medium lacking s.was's easy ... The 900TRV that I synonymous It has works better because ...

It may be that you have a manual camera setting with a slightly better picture of the SR11 issued Holst, in principle, but your experience would be expected: The regular Lowlight performance is a systemic weakness of consumer HD camcorders. The TRV900 has three (if slightly smaller synonymous) sensors and is significantly less, ie more pixels - so it can be in low light its full play.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von WoWu:

Quote:
Times I would test to see whether the horizontal Resolutionin 1920x1080 is better than 1440x1080

Hope always dies last.



Antwort von Bernard:

So me of the above mentioned problem with the resolution seems to do nothing.

If it's no improvement between SR1 and SR11 has:

100 Lux: absolutely necessary for an ordinary strip to generate
20 lux, the colors fade
5 lux: there is almost nothing left - only darker scrap

Here is a link with pictures of the SR1 test
http://www.cameravideo.net/forum/haute-definition-avc-hd-codecs-non-hdv/4700-sony-hdr-sr1-avchd-test-complet.html

Gruss



Antwort von coolsurfing:

Hi,

I have still an addendum to this thread. I have now but unexpectedly increased an HDTV Television (Toshiba 42Z3030D) (Chain Reaction HDTV: Camera -> Television -> PC (for AVCHD) -> HDTV receivers ......). Since the industry is looking forward :-)

I have 3 times the same movie in 3 different levels of quality HD HD SP, HD and HD HQ FH recorded (biking on a path, ie with movement) and the camcorder directly via HDMI Television s.den connected.

I can detect no difference. Synonymous times I have a few friends asked. There was no winner. That has me a little irritated!

Is there a way to objectively assess the quality, perhaps with some software?

Thank you.

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von wilo:

Another addendum,

The television can be 1920x1080p, the recordings are "just" 50i, but s.Television see they are very brilliant, but all equally good.

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von Bernard:

"coolsurfing" wrote:
Hi,

Is there a way to objectively assess the quality, perhaps with some software?
Coolsurfing


So I draw pictures out, with Nemo Showtime, for example, in full resolution, and then, next with Photoshop.

What I can tell time now.

A convert with Procoder 3 of AVCHD 1920x1088 to MPEG2, HD, 1920 x 1080, 25fps is a slight loss

A conversion of 1920x1088 AVCHD Sony Procoder to H.264 in MP2TS, 1920x1080i 25fps, has a very slight (federlechter) profit (or improvement) in terms of resolution according to my eye. Subjectively, however, is a thing.

I think next to 1440 and go down hill anyway auf'm PC Full Screen - I've not yet verified.

Greeting



Antwort von coolsurfing:

Hi Bernard,

Synonymous times I've made the videos with the PMB pictures cut out and then in Corel Paint Shop Pro is loaded inside and enlarged. With fairly high magnification you will see a marginal difference then, I find anyway. On the television itself but I could see no difference?
Is there really synonymous with the possibility of a software, in the film itself to enlarge?

Greeting

Coolsurfing



Antwort von freacore:

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Antwort von coolsurfing:

@ freacore

Thanks for the info. Will I see me.

Greeting

Coolsurfing









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