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Einstellungen in Premiere Pro für HF 100 / Probleme bei AVCHD-Bearbeitung

Settings in Adobe Premiere Pro for HF 100 / problems with AVCHD editing



Frage von CoxOrange74:
August 2009

Hello everyone! After I had taken all the purchase and hiring decisions in recent months based on the threads of this forum, I would now like to ask a direct question, once synonymous. (; Of course I have previously searched for information already available. And of course I had the issue synonymous with Premiere Pro can post or Canon. But since they synonymous covers some basic areas that I chose for general post-production.)

So I have a Canon HF purchased in the spring of 100, to make usAufzeichnungen of ball games in halls. Meanwhile, I have already used the camera a few times and am very satisfied. However, it was / I am with some settings are still not quite sure, and also search for an optimization of the workflow:

According to the prevailing opinion here, I'm filming in sports in 1920x1080 50i. That actually works quite well. Should therefore have no / r great rebuttal, I would leave this as default.

The material so far I have only edited in iMovie. In accordance with the waiting period, I had the import and the swelling of files (; conversion to AIC) live. Overall, this was actually quite good viable. The prospect of being able to natively cut, and likely to require less space (;) nor to have less quality loss, but has now persuaded me to invest in Adobe Premiere Pro CS 4.
There is indeed right at the beginning of a window where you can choose preferences for the sequence of the recording format / must.
What should I select here? AVCHD 1080i25 (; anamorphic 50i) or 1080i25 (, 50i)?
Synonymous, is this really the best setting?
Should I choose in the run-25p, I would have to adjust anamorph AVCHD 1080p25 or 1080p25? Or am I getting mixed up and what would accordingly adopt a completely different preset in Premiere Pro?
What experience have you with the sports preset s.der Camera?
What do you think of the entire workflow?
Makes the investment in the Elgato Turbo H.264HD for Premiere Pro on purpose or the Adobe export options satisfactory?

I look forward to answers / advice. Thank you.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

If you have included in FXP -> 1080i25 (, 50i) - otherwise "anamorphic".
You can even create test projects and make yourself acquainted with what is suitable for "25p better." For real 25p is indeed not with the HF100.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
If you have included in FXP -> 1080i25 (, 50i) - otherwise "anamorphic".

Ok - Thanks. For all other settings, I assume in 1440x1080, right? Does this mean that this is the essential difference? (; Synonymous dawned on me, with respect to 1440 times that of square pixels or so to have read.)

Quote:
You can even create test projects and make yourself acquainted with what is suitable for "25p better." For real 25p is indeed not with the HF100.

Should this be handled then no analogy here just to say, in anamorphic FXP 1080i25 (, 50i) and 1080i25 for all other camera settings (, 50i)?

What do you think / what do you think GRDS. of the procedure? Where could I improve that?








Antwort von RickyMartini:

The preset should match the format of the source material.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
The preset should match the format of the source material.

It is already clear to me. For me it was indeed the primary issue to clarify, which corresponds to the two preferences my source format (; amorphous or not). That's what I know now. Thank you.

About Answers Relating to the other issues and recommendations regarding the basic workflow I should be glad, of course, synonymous much.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

So, now I have the time and quick to try my worst fears have happened:

Have an image file contents with one SDHC card AVCHD footage mounted. Then I created a new Project and in the preselection for the source material - as recommended - AVCHD 1080i25 (; elected 50i).

The next step, I have accessed via the Media Browser to the AVCHD footage. As I knew of the premiere video tutorials, I was able to import the individual clips by double-clicking in the Source window and view of this completely or in part in the Project. So far, so good. With the import period for the clips, I can live well. Very reasonably, however, that the clips in the source video windows will not look sharp or smoothly.

Very well. From the project window, I pulled the clips in the timeline. The transfer was the same fix as the source video window into the Project. Unfortunately, the clips but synonymous consider here neither sharp nor smoothly.

Up to this point, the end result of the time benefits would probably absorb too. Unfortunately, however, consider the problems through to the final result: The export with the default setting, HDTV 1080p 25 high quality took 37 seconds for the material initially had good times 8.5 minutes to complete. As early as the thrilled me not really. Worse, however, weighs, which is itself the resulting MPEG-4 movie blurred and hooks without end.

So why is that?

Your calculator should actually just meet the minimum requirements for Premiere Pro CS4 (; iMac Intel Core Duo, 2.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD2600). Or he is already the central issue? This thread http://www.slashcam.de/info/welcher-iMac-fuer- AVCHD - 372228.html yes actually gives a rather different impression? However, the answers may relate to the cutting with Final Cut Express to warm. To my knowledge, this is indeed a change in AIC and cutting into iMovie is running with me so synonymous.

Please really urgent for advice
As this can be achieved with a reasonable expiration satisfactory results?
I Would not limited to iMovie, since I no longer extends the feature set.
And I really want to no more still to upgrade to HDV because I am aware, after a long search in this forum for the HF 100 was chosen.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

I use the Windows version. From this I can say that is necessary for smooth playback at least a Core2Duo with 2,5 Ghz and each megabyte of RAM to use the performance as well.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
I use the Windows version. From this I can say that is necessary for smooth playback at least a Core2Duo with 2,5 Ghz and each megabyte of RAM to use the performance as well.

Good or not good. If the Calculator is the problem, not least would have to agree the end result? Or is it synonymous due to the calculator, since he ultimately worked consistently with compressed material?
How can I create s.schnellsten and best remedy? After the purchase of Premiere Pro, I really had not expected the additional purchase of a new computer.
What components could I? Complement
And what would bring to this workflow, the Elgato Turbo H.264 HD?
If there were synonymous in Premiere Pro is a functional transformation of a crutch as in iMovie?
Maybe I should have but would rather buy an HV30 ...



Antwort von RickyMartini:

The Elgato Turbo H.264 HD only accelerated export to H.264 - for cutting the IMO purely brings nothing.

Mach dich doch mal versed on the basis of the handbook:
http://www.elgato.com/elgato/int/mainmenu/products/Accessories/Turbo264HD/product3.de.html

Premiere Pro does not seem to work.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

This corresponds to my expectations. But had hoped that on discharge the export then at least the end result would be acceptable.

Moreover, today I mentioned the views of local specialists Pro Video Apple store. He is believed that the Premiere Pro for Mac is nothing but an expensive beta software, and sees no major problem in the system of my computer.

This statement is almost more sobering than that my calculator is too weak. A beta software for around EUR 1,000 can not be yes I am serious!
None is going on here with their own - positive or negative - experiences with Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 for Mac and AVCHD??
What tricks and gimmicks are there?

I look forward to more answers.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

"CoxOrange74" wrote:
But had hoped that on discharge the export then at least the end result would be acceptable.

What do you mean? PPro delivers very good MPEG2 - and AVCHD quality during export -> final result.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

As already described above, hooks it is not just on the way to goal but synonymous in the final standings:

Quote:
Up to this point, the end result of the time benefits would probably absorb too. Unfortunately, however, consider the problems through to the final result: The export with the default setting, HDTV 1080p 25 high quality took 37 seconds for the material initially had good times 8.5 minutes to complete. As early as the thrilled me not really. Worse, however, weighs, which is itself the resulting MPEG-4 movie blurred and hooks without end.


That's why I need to search for a crutch with which I can then at least produce an acceptable final format.








Antwort von RickyMartini:

Use these settings in PPro for the H.264 export:

Format: H.264 Blu-ray
Preset: HDTV 1080i 25 High Quality (; Modified)

Multiplexer:
Multiplexing: TS

Video:
Bitrate Encoding: CBR
Bitrate [Mbps]: 20

Audio:
Audio format: Dolby Digital
Basic Audio settings: Dolby Digital

Bitrate settings:
Bitrate [kbps]: 256
----------------------------

Can reflect how well H.264 clips on the Apple, I can not say unfortunately. On a modern Windows PC with PowerDVD the clips 8 / 9 in any event run flawlessly.



Antwort von CoxOrange74:

Come next thus not synonymous: With the settings I get to my surprise, three files with different extensions. I do not know how I can continue to open it /. (; H.264 clips generally run well.)

Today I again searched the entire afternoon for solutions. According to this forum, there are those of the following four:

Path 1: Native AVCHD editing with a really fast and one of the few Calculator Programs, the fleet halfway AVCHD processing control.

Path 2: convert the AVCHD files into an intermediate codec or MPEG2.

Path 3: Use a software that enables the proxy average (, so cut with Converted materials in reduced image quality, then) Calculation of the film in the original quality.

Path 4: Conversion of AVCHD to DV - Video or MPEG2 with standard resolution.

None of these solutions brings me to next date:

Path 1: the new Premiere Pro CS 4 possessions in use. My Calculator is by no means really fast, but met the official system. However, both the processing as synonymous, the end result is absolutely inadequate.

Way 2: Using the Apple Intermediate Codec I'm getting no improvement. The widely praised here Canopus HQ codec for PCs only, it seems to give.

Path 3: Where is the difference in path 2 and what are your recommendations?

Path 4: For this route, I would have surely little need AVCHD Camera to buy.

'm Slow and helpless again earnestly ask for your support! Someone is here but the experience with Premiere Pro CS4 for Mac and AVCHD have material. Does the native cut easily with you?
If so, how?
What tricks are there (; path 2 or 3)?
And does anyone experience with HDV footage and Premiere Pro CS4 for Mac?
Is there synonymous problems?

Otherwise Steige but that is still around to HDV or buy me FCE. With the latter, the incision should indeed run at least as satisfactory as with iMovie, and in the wider range of functions.

I look forward to answers. Beautiful Sunday evening.




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