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Frage von matthias321:
November 2010

I have included a text in one room and would now that this sounds as if he had been taken outdoors.

Can someone give me tips how can I achieve this as in Premiere?



Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Rotation times louder, I do not listen to Münster ...



Antwort von Numquam:

"Matthias321" wrote:
I have included a text in one room and would now that this sounds as if he had been taken outdoors.

Can someone give me tips how can I achieve this as in Premiere?


Simply put over it time atmosphere. Sit down somewhere and take on atmosphere.

Greetz





Antwort von Pianist:

"Matthias321" wrote:
I have included a text in one room and would now that this sounds as if he had been taken outdoors.

Can someone give me tips how can I achieve this as in Premiere?

I am sometimes amazed (or appalled), how little knowledge is available to some people, and what questions then arise therefrom. Of course there are no digital effect to subsequently remove the existing reflections of a recording. Add the other hand, would be no problem. Therefore, there is every Hörspielkompex an anechoic chamber, which absorb all the room surfaces to such an extent that virtually the space no longer is in evidence. If you such a space is not available, then you will next do nothing but photographs, which should sound like "outdoors", synonymous outdoor record.

It is obviously not enough simply to lay only one Naturatmo underneath.

Matthias



Antwort von matthias321:

@ Numqaum: Thank you for the only useful answer so far. Atmosphere I've already put over it, but that makes no difference s.der voice, of course.

@ Pianist: Sorry, but if you think that this is an "Only professionals can-write-question-answer" forum, but then ignore your future, the threads in which I Tummel me.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Matthias321" wrote:
Sorry, but if you think that this is an "Only professionals can-write-question-answer" forum, but then ignore your future, the threads in which I Tummel me.

This was with "professionals" to do nothing. But it's not too much to ask that one deals with the basics of sound propagation, if you make sound recordings.

Matthias



Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Say, you go to?! Matthias (pianist) has given you the basics, and you whining about the ¼ s.durchaus more appropriate criticism, rather than thank you. Silly!



Antwort von Meggs:

"Matthias321" wrote:
@ Numqaum: Thank you for the only useful answer so far. Atmosphere I've already put over it, but that makes no difference s.der voice, of course.

@ Pianist: Sorry, but if you think that this is an "Only professionals can-write-question-answer" forum, but then ignore your future, the threads in which I Tummel me.


Pianist was perhaps a little arrogant, but he's basically right. Reverberation you get no more out of the recording. What is you must do: repeat the recording in a room that resonates less, while the micro modulated close to the speaker and correct. Sun Hall room you reduce to a minimum.



Antwort von matthias321:

"Pianist" wrote:

This was with "professionals" to do nothing. But it's not too much to ask that one deals with the basics of sound propagation, if you make sound recordings.


I have before me with the basics of working time extension and found that I can not isolate their spread .... :)

Apart from that, 'I am busy and the recordings actually sound pretty good (quiet room with sound insulation to the Micro / the direction of sound around). Much Hall is not at all in the recordings here.

But it sounds just too perfect for an outdoor reception ...



Antwort von Numquam:

Naturally enough atmosphere not put over it. The course changed is not the synonymous Recording ansich, but complements it. I've assumed that the audio recording or the spoken text should simply sound like a public street or something.

Of course you have to do something there s.der ansich voice, for sure. Rauszubekommen But the drought is difficult.

We can not and must crack for everything.

Do not worry, this is normal.

The technicians here are then usually Loser in the creative sector. I know in my personal life can not everything.

The short films are of our technology nerds, for example, what content, continuity, creativity and absolute terms like S ******* s, but technically, SFX, 3D etc.pp 1A.

Nevertheless, it is synonymous people here that you can at least give some tips.

Always the next question ;-)


Greetz



Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Maybe I just wanted to insist, therefore, that you may upload a portion of it, so you get a better "picture" of it may be the sound.

"I have a recording out there ... ... does not sound like how I do it with Premiere" ... it's just too little.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Numquam" wrote:
I know in my personal life can not everything.

Let me know when you're coming to Berlin ... :-)

Matthias



Antwort von Numquam:

"Pianist" wrote:

Let me know when you're coming to Berlin ... :-)

Matthias


That is a laudable part, on the other hand, then no one will work with you together, right? ;-) Yes you can all without exception! Are then virtually a one-man company.

You do not want now really claim that you alone are sound, script, directing, SFX, 3D, marketing, pre / post-production, costing, and all the idea what else A team must be present and cope alone mastered.

And I live in a dream world ?????



Antwort von Kino:

Why not? If you do not want to play the entire keyboard or do, but dominated the selected octave successfully and there is no great time pressure, but there is nothing.

Numquam, as I read here more than even write that you would make me a big favor if you would deal with you a little closer to the quote syntax. It is sometimes difficult for me, from your contributions to extract your own creative Height. Thank you



Antwort von Pianist:

"Numquam" wrote:
You do not want now really claim that you alone are sound, script, directing, SFX, 3D, marketing, pre / post-production and all that why else would a 10-member team to be present, and cope alone mastered.

I'm going to spread here any details of my operation in public, but you can assume that my films are 97 to 99 percent of my work. And although in content, design and technical aspects. The nice thing is that my films look exactly as they were of a large team had been produced. However, I've been working for 16 years so the fact I have a certain edge. This is certainly not for all projects, but the work with my very good. Thus I have a very high temporal flexibility synonymous and can very quickly change and supplements deliver where others would have only drum up their people.

That helps but the question of origin matter anyway, he was recording his just repeat again at night in a quiet area, it has the desired acoustic effect.

Matthias



Antwort von Numquam:

"Movies" wrote:

Numquam, as I read here more than even write that you would make me a big favor if you would deal with you a little closer to the quote syntax. It is sometimes difficult for me, from your contributions to extract your own creative Height. Thank you


This is a good tip ;-) I do (do) you the favor ;-)

What does it mean you sure the conceptual depth ;-)



Antwort von Pianist:

"Movies" wrote:
Why not? If you do not want to play the entire keyboard or do, but dominated the selected octave successfully and there is no great time pressure, but there is nothing.

Both. For me it is even generally the case that I'm faster this than others. Because I already know exactly what I want, and it must explain to others the first place. So like everything fits together beautifully. This synonymous comes into my extremely tight turning ratio. Of course this is not possible with any kind of film that fits in my projects but the most appreciate. I would make it crazy when I tell other times only need to turn what they then s.Ende noted that the recordings are not as good as necessary. Especially since I almost have no dates, where you could hinschicken everyone, but those are always matters, where one must be familiar with the subject very well. There just are not with me the division of labor between writer and cameraman. But this is for me a clear competitive advantage. I should mention, however, that accrue to me things like 3D animations almost never something I would outsource course. And of course I use a lot of native speakers of the foreign-language film versions. The rest is all mine ... :-)

But enough so that is hidden here in this thread so good, I am not related s.sich external to my work.

Matthias



Antwort von Numquam:

@ Pianist:

I find that amazing. I imagine it quite difficult. However, it depends on the complexity of the work.

Nothing is impossible! I want synonymous catch any information about the way you work ;-).

It just sounds very "over the top" if someone claims he invariably do everything yourself.

May I know what you produce that?

Greetz



Antwort von Pianist:

"Numquam" wrote:
I find that amazing. I imagine it quite difficult. However, it depends on the complexity of the work.

So in general it is in my shooting films for information, which s.verschiedene target groups of experts set up to lay people to be informed about certain issues. They are a part, topics in various technical fields, on the other topics in different policy areas, I am after all a political scientist. The client usually know only that they need for a specific event or for example for its website a film that aims to inform people right and just over a particular topic. Then there are maybe three or four keywords and all the rest I have to take care of myself.

A command of the whole technology is here as a matter of course in the background. Of interest to my client did not synonymous. The only know that I am with my technique, see above oriented edge, and otherwise it only counts for that s.Ende a film comes out, they like and the exact message across takes that are important to them. It is important for me to show only the very best recordings. I would never cut into a film in a recording, I do not like 100 percent. And I have in the past 16 years synonymous still missed a single important recording or dirty. Most of my films are then s.Ende more beautiful than the client presented s.Anfang.

And since I seem somehow to take the taste of my clients or I would not have so many. And all are fairly important authorities who have absolutely synonymous Comparison of the major competitors ... :-)

Matthias



Antwort von Numquam:

@ Pianist:

Then I think it is synonymous feasible.

Continued success ;-)



Antwort von handiro:

"Pianist" wrote:
"Matthias321" wrote:
I have included a text in one room and would now that this sounds as if he had been taken outdoors.

Can someone give me tips how can I achieve this as in Premiere?

I am sometimes amazed (or appalled), how little knowledge is available to some people, and what questions then arise therefrom. Of course there are no digital effect to subsequently remove the existing reflections of a recording. Add the other hand, would be no problem. Therefore, there is every Hörspielkompex an anechoic chamber, which absorb all the room surfaces to such an extent that virtually the space no longer is in evidence. If you such a space is not available, then you will next do nothing but photographs, which should sound like "outdoors", synonymous outdoor record.

It is obviously not enough simply to lay only one Naturatmo underneath.

Matthias


There is one effect that I know, with whom I could have Hall or remove reflections in part: an expander, which is the opposite of the COMPRESSOR. I think the thing was of Waves.
However, I agree completely, reshoots or dubbing in the cabin will probably be the only way ...
Greetings from Berlin



Antwort von Pianist:

"Handiro" wrote:
There is one effect that I know, with whom I could have Hall or remove reflections in part: an expander, which is the opposite of the COMPRESSOR.

So you can reach but only that the level is lowered in pauses. The extreme case would be a gate that is at the cut in the modulation pauses entirely. Of these, it is definitely not better because you hear so while speaking to synonymous Hall shares the s.Ende then the word or sentence be reduced or completely cut off. This allows you to repair crashed shots a little, but the desired result here to get it not a practical way.

Matthias



Antwort von domain:

"Pianist" wrote:

I am sometimes amazed (or appalled), how little knowledge is available to some people, and what questions then arise therefrom.


So your knowledge is addressed in my opinion basically been more of a specialized knowledge.
So it goes just a harmless looking for a business when he met with specialists.
I could ask you now synonymous, what a difference actually existed between a locomotive of the series 52 and the 201 series in the DAR?
That's why I've pinched one (with the way you identical) response to Mathias question because I know that there are real professionals in the Tonsektor, but on the other hand, still have not really synonymous "set" and that is no disgrace.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Domain" wrote:
I could ask you now synonymous, what a difference actually existed between a locomotive of the series 52 and the 201 series in the DAR?

Kriegslok against railroad-V100? :-)

Matthias



Antwort von stefangs:

at times back to get on the topic and hopefully what practical to propose:

1: There is a plugin with the aptly named 'deverb' what does a passable service, reflections of a signal by calculation. I've tried it a few years ago skeptical because I did not believe that such things would work and was surprised after all. I leave it up to you but to find out whether the conditions still exist and what it costs because I have tested it as I said only once and not have more on my plate.

2: If you have a portable setup, take a reasonable speaker put it in your garden, let your recording volume down with NATURAL unbiased about it running and put it back on a more sensible with micro. Depending on your location and distance between speaker and micro-gardens should maintain the desired setting effect. Similarly, in the studio with some sample-based drum tracks done so that it sounds not so single-output moderately, but more developed zusammengehoerigkeitsflair.

Good luck,
stefan




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